Could somebody give correct/working startup-sequence values to use with BlizzPPC?

BTW. I got some ENV: request while booting,

I'll have to investigate more...

quite funny to see that this thread(+ the other thread here on aw aswell) has more views and posts than all posts together on moszone.

so question... why are the normally "non posters" just bumping this thread ?

Or is it the fact that you have to post here because Amigaworld all of a sudden aint such an evil place anymore?

here is an example:

user: X
latest post: today at xx:xx
last post before today: 2 years ago at xx:xx.

anyway its good to see people are active again if only to bump.

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Right.. seems it's not really very easy to get up and running. Things to check:

1. the huge line at the end of startup-sequence needs to end in $kickstart >NIL:
If you load it in Ed, it will get cut off.

2. Make sure you read the syntax carefully. It's looks like a bit of a double syntax.

3. Unless you have 96 MB ram, don't bother. That's the minimum requirement for some crazy reason - and probably why I only got it to reset and go no further.

Right. Back to OS4 :)

opi:

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Can I boot and use Ambient with 64MB?

mZ: no


edit: well it may. here is what the doc says:

- 64MB to boot
- At least 96MB for normal usage, 128MB recommended

Last edited by Toaks on 25-Aug-2005 at 12:41 PM.

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@Toaks&others

Uh...

I've even used PPCLinux with (old) KDE with 64MB...

I didn't realised that Ambient needs so much memory...Got to test anyway!


Is there other option instead of Ambient? Doc mentioned something...unnamed?

Last edited by MZ on 25-Aug-2005 at 12:43 PM.

@ MZ

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Is there other option instead of Ambient?

There's Scalos which IMO is far more advanced and useful than Ambient at this point. However it's still in beta state and thus quite buggy at places.

http://scalos.noname.fr/

And I don't know if it will make much of a difference with regard to memory requirements.

@Ikir:
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I'd like to encourage any users who get this *FREE* version Please Donate with Paypal - they could have easily sold this for $79+ Quote: Are you joking? Not with this limited hardware support.

Now imagine that you actually have all (and only) that hardware would it make you less of a joke?

Besides it is a good product why the hell one shouldn't a least donate? i mean, oviously not you that only had a 060, but rather the ones who *actually* find a use for it on their PPC.

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@ MZ & MikeB:

Don't know if it works on PUP version of MOS, but we have our good oldtimer: Workbench!

Elena Novaretti made a setup tutorial which can be found at elena-fractals.

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Can I boot and use Ambient with 64MB?

It is possible but you dont get much free memory. You can reduce memory usage by dropping backdrops and such. It also depends on how much you run 68k software since JIT can waste few megabytes easily.

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@Trezzer

have you opened the BlizzPPC menu (pressing ESC) and disabled MapROM and any other patch?

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I hope this works well for those people who have the required hardware.

Thanks to "The MorphOS Development Team" for making this software available.

redfox

I think this is really cool news for those that have the correct hardware. Unfortunately I'm not one of them.

If I had the hardware I'd be running it right next to my Amiga One with OS4.

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@_PAB_

I beleive it's more to do with availability of hardware in the pool of people testing. Earlier versions of MOS Classic had far broader hardware support but also more focus from developers and a wider testing circuit.

I'll presume MorphOS team wanted to release something working and tested....although as you can see from the myriad kernel booting options, even this is non-trivial depending on the hardware configuration in the machine.

@opi
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Yeah, it's thier personal, evil agenda.

I KNEW IT!

Nah, all kidding aside.. This is really cool, and a nice move to make it avalible for free. Gives most Classic PPC users something to do while they wait for AmigaOS4.


/shoe

@MikeB

Glad you said 'IMO'...personally I'd take something with a fewer less features and more stability i.e. Ambient over Scalos.

Back when I actually ran a classic, I even used OS3.x workbench rather than either Dopey Mag or Scalos due to speed and stability over 'enhanced' feature set. (I still have my Aliendesign Scalos key somewhere.....that's how long I used Scalos for and it never was stable enough to use in preference to the alternatives.)

Like you said 'IMO'

Having said that...Ambient is also beta...has a few probs. with icon positioning and window refresh(sigh) but I know the guys are working on it

@Toaks

How do you bump a news item anyway?

@Crumb

Yup. Checked for all suggested things. I guess it's just the memory requirements that got me.
Oh well.