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Is it not possible that they could sell the boards to Eyetech and not have to worry about a Licence, seeing as Eyetech already have said Licence?

Hope not. I'm quite interested in this board, but there's no way I'd buy anything that Eyetech are involved in. Once bitten and all that...

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Well from what has been discussed in the past on other forums here, the price of $500 USD has been mooted. (projected price)

I don't recall anyone from Troika saying that. A member asked if he were to save back $500 would it be enough or too little... I think it was Interesting who replied something like "that should be more than enough".

But with all of the low cost parts and cuts they've made, I would think that a price of $500 USD would surely include an OS4 license. I guess the best thing for all of us to do, before getting that price point etched in peoples mind, is to wait until they have announced a suggested retail price.

@Herewegoagain

I agree. This is all conjecture at this point.
And if the previous posts had any truth to them and Eyetech were in fact
distributing the boards because they hold the license:
Wouldn't Eyetech need to make a profit too?
Wouldn't this raise the cost from the "projected" Troika cost?

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Doesn't this Troika smell like a hoax ? Empty website, motherboard in DPaint, no real names on website and a Troika. "Troika" means three in communist revolution, they've created communist state out of Russia. It could mean AInc, Eyetech and Hyperion in Amigaland. This thing just smells iWin.
Amiga land had so much undelivered promises and even more vapour, but still, after seeing motherboard drawn in DPaint, people believe that Troika is new saviour.
Note - iWin attended meetings too and gave away ballpointpens and similar stuff.

Would be nice to get an answer for my question in the Troika-Website
thread.. How are they ever gonna fit 2 PCI ports on 170x170 mm and
then find any Mini-ITX cases for it?.. The drawing we have seen of the
motherboard has the second PCI port right in the middle, with outlet
above the other ports?..

Unless they include a good-looking custom-made case in this offer
you won't be able to use it to its full.. Which means one PCI graphics
card and nothing else..

Suggestion: Get rid of that second PCI-port. The Dremel is not a
friend for everyone and integrate a Radeon card.

IMO this was not a progress report but more a polite way to tell us
they are busy with things and have not time to answer emails.

Guess we'll have to wait until that BigBash 3.

@thread

I hope to buy one and put it in a MiniITX case, i need a small machine


@brotheris

OMG! Your comments are always..... "balanced"... stop slandering anything OS4 related, enjoy your machine and let the other enjoy theirs.

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Normally I'd agree, but I know Ian Stedman genuinely does have the required skills to design motherboards, and I know that he is not the sort of guy to hoax the Amiga community, so that is what makes me believe it is not a hoax.

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for all people who don't know who Jan Stedman is and what has done/still doing for us:

http://www.ianstedman.co.uk/

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for all people who don't know who Jan Stedman is and what has done/still doing for us

Had a look, but if you click on "Amiga" button, from his website:

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I will cease my involvement in the Amiga side of things. It has been fun but I am now an ex-Amiga user who has lost interest in the scene. I will be selling most of my Amiga gear next year

Does that sound like someone about to take on a huge Amiga related project?

Or maybe he decided to stay (like most of us) and see "what if"?

Anyway I will be going to BB3 so will find out for myself, will be taking pictures, interviewing (hopefully) and writing a report for Total Amiga

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"Does that sound like someone about to take on a huge Amiga related project?"

YES, with his technical backgound, yes indeed.

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YES, with his technical backgound, yes indeed

I wasn't questioning his technical ability, but was questioning his desire to do it with the comments on his own website.

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Another quote off the site.....

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18th December 2004 A stupid hard drive accident meant I lost some of this site. My backups which I regularly made, were no good! I have recovered most of the information from a backup stored elsewhere. Anyway, I took the site down for a week to sort out the mess and make a few changes. A new look, new priorities (I'm stopping the Amiga section) and the planned launch of a new technical section. If there are any broken links or missing pictures please bear with me whilst I fix them You can always e-mail using the address below.

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Okay! I think we're into over-analysis mode now.

Time to wait for BB3.

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(Hardened Amiga cynic mode on)
To me this still smells like an elaborate hoax

The supposed hardware designer already declared he had given-up on the Amiga. And AFAICT from the web site, he only has experience of PIC microcontrollers; it's a slightly large jump from a 10MHz PIC to a 1000MHz PPC chip (i.e. x100).


"Provided all our electronic parts show on time, we will have one of our prototypes available at Big Bash 3."

So let me make a prediction - they unfortunately aren't able to get some electronic part(s), and so can't actually show the board at the BB3. Strange that...

(BTW, I really do hope to be proved wrong.)


P.S. "Troika Games" (developers of the excellent Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines game) went bust. So "Troika" is an unfortunately chosen name, in more than one way.

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"elaborate hoax"

and for the sake of what?

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Indeed, All the nay sayers on here remind me of this quote.

`I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'
`But,' says Man, `The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'
`Oh dear,' says God, `I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly disappears in a puff of logic.
`Oh, that was easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.

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Considering I said to Chris H that I am on the Troika Dev mailing list, purely as an average amiga user, giving his POV to some very talented and well known people in the amiga community. If it's a hoax, then we are all fooled.

edit: Remember, this is the hardware that Hyperion mentioned at AMIGBG back in July.

Sheesh, some people.

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Does that sound like someone about to take on a huge Amiga related project?

Too me it sounds like a busy guy not having time to (or cared to ) update his web site.

Btw keeping an site up to date is even harder than keeping your bedroom clean

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"'elaborate hoax' - and for the sake of what?"
Who knows! You could ask the same question regarding the elaborate iWin hoax, for which I quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga :

"iWin Amigas: iWin was a German company that announced in 1999 that it was designing new computers that were compatible with both classic Amigas and IBM PCs. ... some technical circuit diagrams about them. Upon closer inspection, the circuit diagrams were revealed to be completely unrealistic.

After a few months, the supposed "iWin Amigas" vanished without a trace, without ever being publicly presented or released into the mass market. The general consensus of the Amiga community is that iWin never had done any real design, but were simply trying to pull a hoax on the eagerly-awaiting Amiga fans."

P.S. Mikey C - you only told me that you had spoken to someone at Troika. I'm sure that some people had spoken to people at iWin too. I will only be convinced by some physical evidence - just look at the Amiga's history for reasons why this is a sensible approach

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