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Software News   Software News : AmiGift 2.0 OUT!!!
   posted by VooDoo on 3-Jun-2006 9:14:26 (9961 reads)
meep meep.......AmiGift 2.0 is ready for download....

"As promised, the 2.0 version has just been PRE-released.

Note that this release is marked as beta, and first than anything else let me
explain some points before continuing to download and install this version
......"

Download it here -> http://amigift.sourceforge.net/preRelease/
    

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Re: AmiGift 2.0 OUT!!!
Posted on 5-Jun-2006 23:36:38
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:( here dont work..I try whit your tips..but no happy...the same..stgarne request is still here..,

What plugin du you use?


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Re: AmiGift 2.0 OUT!!!
Posted on 6-Jun-2006 0:05:54
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Hi,

@VooDoo

have you old not finnished DL .. if yes correct the "path" in the xxx.stat files first !
[this will slow down the complet Amigift]
Then start the daemon seperate from cli and not from the giftmui ->
rename the giftd to giftd_
copy the cpu command as giftd to his place
reboot your Amiga ..
after reboot start the TCP stack ..
Then start the giftmui programm .. [it says "waiting for loading the daemon" ..]
CLOSE the giftmui programm ...
THEN start the daemon over a CLI ..
AND then start the giftmui again ..
Then it runns hopefull [if you have no other (TCP relevant/MUI classes/..) problems]

And .. on the Site is a newer Version Available !!! [check the modification Date ! ]

--EDIT--
Have ONLY Gnutella and FastTrack Plug-in !
--EDIT--

--EDIT2--
On my system [060/OS3.9.3+] the new giftd relase [04.06.06 ] dont connect to the older [build107]
or new [build108] giftmui .. only with the older giftd [02.06.06] it rund fine with both
giftmui version [have now the -build108- in use]
--EDIT2--

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Re: AmiGift 2.0 OUT!!!
Posted on 6-Jun-2006 5:45:05
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Well, in my case it worked out-of-the-box, but i can't say that i'm excited about it. I haven't been able to do anything useful with the new plugins: The gnutella is almost always down, thus not very usable and i haven't manage to download anything from ares so far. I also had the impression that the DC plugin was present in v2.0.
I will continue to test it and if the new plugins continue to be disfuntional for me, i think i will stick with v1.x.

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Re: AmiGift 2.0 OUT!!!
Posted on 6-Jun-2006 5:50:03
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Hi,

have now a summary from a couple of bugs ..
Connect nearly ZERO to gnutelle [from the logfile,i think a error in the forwarding -i`am behind an router-]
in the transfer window the sorting is impossible for "size" or "transfered" [this is very bad]
the above writen problems [giftmui running from time to time only at second start-so i start it now regular second times-]

Hope this is sorting .....
[ATM the V2 is less usably as the V1 -specialy with the "nice" reg restrictions-]

mmh ... hope i can registry with PayPal soon over an friend ...

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Re: AmiGift 2.0 OUT!!!
Posted on 6-Jun-2006 5:55:16
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Hi,

@pure_Amiga

which network-stack you are using ?
I think the most giftd--giftmui problems ar Genesis TCP-Stack related .. [this is (if this correct)
very bad .. Genesis is the official OS3.9 TCP stack .. and i will dont downgrade
to AmiTCP3.x ...]

--EDIT--
Yes .. the only problem i have with the V1 is the "inspector" .. it crashes nearly 90% the
times it running .. but i can start sourcen locator at hand .. this is on the V2
not possible without registry .. and i cant test the "inspector" .. if it now
running bugfree or not .....
--EDIT--

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Re: AmiGift 2.0 OUT!!!
Posted on 6-Jun-2006 5:59:54
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Quote:
Connect nearly ZERO to gnutelle

Right.

Quote:
[from the logfile,i think a error in the forwarding -i`am behind an router-]

i don't think so. I'm not behind a router..

Quote:
which network-stack you are using ?
I think the most giftd--giftmui problems ar Genesis TCP-Stack related .. [this is (if this correct)

i don't think so either. I use mainly miami.


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Re: AmiGift 2.0 OUT!!!
Posted on 6-Jun-2006 6:17:22
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Hi,

mmh .. i have read in the logfile often "fwtesting" and then nothing ..
but without an router this theorie is not realistic

I think not from the "plug-in" problem but from the "starting giftmui"
problem .. and you have this not [with miami] ..(if i have this understand correct)
And in the giftmui log [in t:] i read -> "FIONBIO (non-blocking) mode DISABLED On Genesis"
And i know from other Genesis related problems [dynAmite-server]
I have hoped for a workaround after this long time ..

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Re: AmiGift 2.0 OUT!!!
Posted on 6-Jun-2006 12:39:42
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Quote:
I think not from the "plug-in" problem but from the "starting giftmui"
problem .. and you have this not [with miami] ..(if i have this understand correct)
It behaves more or less the same for me with both tcp/ip stacks.

Now, there is a new problem... openFT and ares are permanently off. I was able to connect to these at the beginning. I think it happened from the point that i updated the nodes from the Amigift's online updater...


Edit: I was right. It was the online updater which caused the problem. So, careful with it.

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Re: AmiGift 2.0 OUT!!!
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 6:46:24
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What is the email adress for sending the money with paypal?
The paypal button does't work here.
Is it the same as the one to send the regform?

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Re: AmiGift 2.0 OUT!!!
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 8:32:49
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@All,

Diego (the author), yesterday has registered and posted here an answer for all of you. Waiting for AW.net staff approval.

@classic4000

contatc Diego directly (e-mail address in the AMIGIFT.readme file) or OpenURL.library installed for the Amigift built-in, Paypal registration tool..

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Payment is done now.
Had to update my openurl was 4.??? and latest was 7.???
That did the trick.
Now waitong for key.

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Re: AMIGIFT v2.0 pre-release notes
Posted on 12-Jun-2006 5:28:10
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Hello everybody!

On this my first post I'll try to answer your questions, but first of all
note that I do not own a1/os4 and therefore it is hard to me to fix things..

I'll answer in order of appearance, well... go ahead

@Raziel, post #3

Quote:

that is no config
files, no settings and such, PLUS i forgot to assign the LIBS dir


theres no config files by default to force all you to generate *your own config files*,
you should review the settings to set everything to fit your needs, you can use
the object's bubble-helps if you need additional info about what they are for.

about the libs, all except xml2 and bzlib are loaded first from amigift:libs
by default, and if not found there fall back to standard libs: directory, but
xml2 and bzlib was needed to be into LIBS:

btw, all this is already mentioned on the .readme file ...

hmm, since bzlib is *required* I'll change this to be loaded from
amigift:libs as well.

Quote:

After adding the assign it crashes at the point the MUI libs are loaded (i think)


hmmm.... theres a bug somewhere (honestly I think on the MUI for os4..) where if
the lib vapor_toolkit isnt found it produces such crash... that has been
discovered by elwood, btw.

that library is needed by the Textinput.mcc class, what I dunno is why when the
class's object cannot be created it produces such a crash under os4....


@MichaelMerkel, post #5

Quote:

according to the changelog there were some problems fixed to let it run on os4.


Well, making it ixemul-free was an start...


@swoodall, post #6

can't you get to think that may aren't the creators of the product who posted
the news item ?, VooDoo just saw the announce on the ML and posted it here,
PLUS he stripped the most important part of the announce about a quickstart
on how to setup this 2.0-pre!

btw, thanks for spent the time on clicking the url... but there was needed much
more time on clicking the .readme or faq links to get the full description ?


@spotUP, post #8

Quote:

I get an error during startup though;
'Internal Error: loading giftd.conf... doenst exists...?'


This is fixed on the latest giFTMui.lha build, it doenst caused any real issue though
(giftd.conf is loaded at startup by giFTMui to select the plugins you has active...)


@ToAks, post #9

Thanks


@R-TEAM, post #10

Quote:

It is a bit difficult to install


WTF, the 68020 package is intended to be extracted somewhere and be READY TO RUN,
ofcourse that you MUST remove any reference to the V1.x from your HD, AND if you
do not follow the instructions as mentioned on the AMIGIFT.readme it is most
likely you will be not able to use amigift on a nice way!

Quote:

i have a chat prg installed .. so i need an filesharing prg ..
not a second chat prg !!


Most p2p programs todays incorporates a chat program, most of them uses own
implementations, I just do not wanted to spent much time on this and used a
single IRC interface connecting to our freenode channel, it is most likely
(to my understanding) that most users uses a p2p program more times than a
chat program, hence a p2p program with chat is always helpful if you need
help at anytime...

Quote:

WHY will giftmui start every time the daemon ??
WHY is giftmui shut down the daemon on quitting giftmui ?


Thats a limitation of the unregistered version

giFTMui uses a new mechanism to launch the daemon itself, and detect on-the-fly
when it exits "for some reason", there could be certains cases where side effects
could happens when it is not launched and quit on that way, we are still testing
this and may for the official release of further version this change.


@NutsAboutAmiga, post #17

Quote:

Can't find Lamp.mcc V11.2, I can only find V11.1
and I'm getting DSI error when i start Gift


giFTMui shoudn't require the 11.2, hence I've downgrade the required version
to 11.1, that will ensure everybody has the version...

About that DSI, Im very sorry but since I haven't a1/os4 I have no much idea
yet about those issues and what is causing them... may someone already
experience would like to help me on that, but as always the best way will be
once new amiga hardware comes to my hands...


@VooDoo, post #19

that issue is indeed quite strange... you can use however the debug-activated
version of giFTMui I've send days ago to the ML (Im waiting since then man)


@spotUP, post #21

Quote:

it the 'fatal error initializing gift.library' a known problem under aos4 or is there a way to make it work?


Did you read the last Q&A from the 'Troubleshooting' section at the FAQ ? the problem still ?



@RWO, post #24

Quote:

I had to get ixemul installed before I chould get AmiGift to connect..


LOL!... just coincidence man

the most common issue (well, the unique issue, if isnt a bug somewhere) not
being able to connect to the network(s) are due outdated nodes.

If your nodes get outdated theres an archive in the pre-site (nodes.lha) just
replace your local nodes with the contents of this archive (thats at least
for this version), however this do not guarantee a connection, there are some
factors to consider...


@R-TEAM, post #28

Quote:

old V1 path style in the xxx.stat files to the new V2 style .. musst doing all this
by hand (edit programm) -> path= /DHX/xxxx to path= DHX:xxxx .. and now it runnings


totally right, I forgot to mention this, sorry all and thx rtema for the tip

Quote:

But .... to use Amigift finally with the announced V1 feautures i musst pay for 2.0 .........


what !? the ONLY feature present on the V1 which needs reg on the v2 is the
locator, and only because it has been rewritted from scratch, previously
the inspector and locators was launched using subprocesses/threads, now the
sockets communication system has been completely rewritted as well, and the
locators are launched on the same task context by using asynchronous sockets.

You pay for the giFTMui 2.0 optional features only (and there are some new
features which do not needs reg), and ofcourse to help us on the developend
on which thousands of hours have been used!

If you do not want to pay, no problem... this 2.0 version without reg is
intended to be usable like the olds 1.x... yes, excepting the locator thing
but thats currently a pre-release and everything is subject to change...

Quote:

Better to named the V2 "-DEMO-" ....


Do you know what really means "shareware" and "demo" products? ...then how
you can claim this to amigift !?

amigift ISN'T shareware AT ALL!

it is fully useable as-is, no timeouts, no adware, no spyware, just the new
functions needs reg to be of use, as Ive mentioned already.

Quote:

have no actuall P2P protocol [eDonkey]..


Actual ? Ares is more actual than EDonkey..

however, as you already noted.., the plugins system are now dinamicaly loadable,
hence EVERYBODY who WISHES can create a plugin for amigift!, what I can
guarantee you is that I'll NOT create an Edonkey plugin myself....

For the official release there will be available an SDK to create new network
plguins, if someone wants it right now ask me (it isnt fully ready right now
but I can make it useable atm)



@classic4000, post #29
@VooDoo, post #30

but wheres the failure exactly ? giFTMui, giftd/libs, or some plugin (doubt) ?
please give us a bit more details!...



@spotUP, post #32

Quote:

the gift library problem was due the lamp mcc was too old.


erm... the giFT core does not use MUI at all.. :)


@poweramiga2002, post #33

Quote:

hmmm stil got the fatal error initializing gift.library everything else seems ok if i can get the error sorted itll connect any ideas anyone ?


follow my reply to post #21 and let me know if that let you understand and solve the problem.


@spotUP, post 36

Quote:

mine says welcome to the filesharing world now, but when i try to search for something i don't get any results.


whats the status of the networks lamps when you tryed to search ?
If they aren't green you will be not able to locate anything...

Next giFTMui build will check for the network status before proceding with searches

Quote:

this might be due some mui thingie still, weirder things have happened when i have had mising mui libs..
damn, those mui libs are a real pain to sort out, no useful requesters.


giFTMui checks on startup if the required MUI Classes are installed, aborting
the program execution if some of they wasn't found, and informing you with a
requester of the missing resource.

Previous versions of giFTMui also checked for third part resources the mui
classes (and other libs) needs, but for some reason I can't remember right now
I've disabled such extra check, may I should reenable it (?)...


@MichaelMerkel, post #37

Quote:

i usually just get a grim reaper when pressing search...


where it is ?

I can't believe you, amigift is bug-free, or did you see any item on
our Bug-Tracking ? ...(just joking..


@spotUP, post #38

Quote:

@kicko
yepp.. i can confirm that bug.
.......
***Command 'amigift:daemon/giftd' returned with unfreed signals 40000000!


That problem by using INDEXONLY should be gone on the latest build as
reported Kicko on our ML, but there is some other problem reloading the
daemon which we are still trying to trace... flusing the libs/plugins
from memory before reloading it should help though...


@classic4000, post #40

Quote:

Hey I've got it to go!
I've set the SPLASHWINDOW option to NO istead of yes in the giftmui.info and I don't get that strange window thingie now.


O_o, do you mean that was what caused the requester with "error 0" ? ...sounds too impossible to me!


@VooDoo, post #41

Quote:

:( here dont work..I try whit your tips..but no happy...the same..stgarne request is still here..,


Well.....forgot all the users tips, and follow STEP-by-STEP what I told on
the ML and what I wrote on the AMIGIFT.readme! ... I known my english spelling
is a ####, hence do you dont understand something from my texts ? Ok! ask what
you dont understand!

apart that, seems clear theres some issue arround, by those strange requesters, but
if you dont provide a more accurate info about from where they comes we will be unable to
solve it!, note that each component works "independently" from each other and who
known from where comes the requester you got (the requester's title says it)



@R-TEAM, post #42

Quote:

start the daemon seperate from cli and not from the giftmui ->
rename the giftd to giftd_
copy the cpu command as giftd to his place
reboot your Amiga ..
after reboot start the TCP stack ..
Then start the giftmui programm ..
CLOSE the giftmui programm ...
THEN start the daemon over a CLI ..
AND then start the giftmui again ..


I do not want to offend nobody, but thats the more stupid thing I have never heard (sorry if Im being too honest x-P)

Double-Clicking on the giFTMui icon does the same

"start giftmui and then close it" you told, and well, whats the purpose of
this thing !? doing that giftmui will automatically start the daemon, if then
you quit giftmui very quickly you can probably end up with corrupted nodes
files or others even worse side effects!..., on the startup proccess giftd needs
some time to load the nodes and banlist files (which are generally big in size)
if you break it at this step it is most likely that some corruption could happens...

and after this you claim to re-run the daemon this time "by hand" from cli and then
giftmui again, sorry but I see that as a totally senseless action, IMHO

Quote:

On my system [060/OS3.9.3+] the new giftd relase [04.06.06 ] dont connect to the older [build107]
or new [build108] giftmui .. only with the older giftd [02.06.06] it rund fine with both
giftmui version [have now the -build108- in use]


you dont know what you are saying...

thats the diff from giftd_02.06.2006 to giftd_04.06.2006 :

> if(__giftd_cleaned == FALSE)
> __safe_cleanup ( );

(used at program exit)

if you noticed such issue must be something else... can you imagine "the why" ?....



@pure_Amiga, post #43

Quote:

Well, in my case it worked out-of-the-box, but i can't say that i'm excited about it. I haven't been able to do anything useful with the new plugins: The gnutella is almost always down, thus not very usable and i haven't manage to download anything from ares so far.


Note that on the first run it may take some time to found a working and up
supernode(s), patience...

Quote:

I also had the impression that the DC plugin was present in v2.0.


It is "there", but until it is not quite well tested it will not be publicaly released


@pure_Amiga, post #48

Quote:

I think it happened from the point that i updated the nodes from the Amigift's online updater
...
I was right. It was the online updater which caused the problem. So, careful with it.


Probably, the nodes available from the online updater are OLDERs the ones I've
upped to the pre-site (both, base/ready packages and nodes.lha)

The Online Updater will be fully ready for the official release.





Well, thanks god arrived the end

@all:
sorry for my bad english...

@moderators:
Sorry if this post end up being too long, I do not wanted to post 30 replys
separately.. :)



Kind Regards,

Diego Casorran.
AMIGIFT Maintainer.
http://amigift.sourceforge.net/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/amigift/
http://lists.sf.net/lists/listinfo/amigift-users/

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Re: AMIGIFT v2.0 pre-release notes
Posted on 12-Jun-2006 13:40:23
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Hello Diego and welcome!

Quote:
Quote:
Well, in my case it worked out-of-the-box, but i can't say that i'm excited about it. I haven't been able to do anything useful with the new plugins: The gnutella is almost always down, thus not very usable and i haven't manage to download anything from ares so far.

Note that on the first run it may take some time to found a working and up
supernode(s), patience...

Well, i'm using Amigift 2.0 for several days now and things are exactly as i described them for the new plugins. I have met many ppl who agree with me. At least for the gnutella plugin.

Furthermore, i have found a very annoying bug which was confirmed at least by one person: The OpenFT node file goes empty after a few hours.. I have to update it manually but then it goes 0 size again and again... I have NEVER had this kind of problem with Amigift 1! What do you think?

And here is another possible bug: NOONE has ever download a file from me while i'm using v2.0. At least this is what the data/history file reports and i have never see an uploaded file on the transfer window. And before you say that it's something normal, i tell you that it's not. I always had users fetching files from me when i was using 1.x.

PS: i doubt that many ppl will read your post as the news item have been displaced from the front page days ago.

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Hi,

Hello Diego and welcome too

Now starts the reply ...

Quote:

@R-TEAM, post #10

Quote:

It is a bit difficult to install



WTF, the 68020 package is intended to be extracted somewhere and be READY TO RUN,
ofcourse that you MUST remove any reference to the V1.x from your HD, AND if you
do not follow the instructions as mentioned on the AMIGIFT.readme it is most
likely you will be not able to use amigift on a nice way!


This was more a mention to the other users ...
I have no problem to install this relase [except the problem with the path
in the xxx.stat files]

Quote:

Quote:

i have a chat prg installed .. so i need an filesharing prg ..
not a second chat prg !!



Most p2p programs todays incorporates a chat program, most of them uses own
implementations, I just do not wanted to spent much time on this and used a
single IRC interface connecting to our freenode channel, it is most likely
(to my understanding) that most users uses a p2p program more times than a
chat program, hence a p2p program with chat is always helpful if you need
help at anytime...


mmh ... i like to use WC [WookieChat] for this .. for me it is a waste of
space .. mmhh .. better make him as plugin ..

Quote:

Quote:

WHY will giftmui start every time the daemon ??
WHY is giftmui shut down the daemon on quitting giftmui ?



Thats a limitation of the unregistered version

giFTMui uses a new mechanism to launch the daemon itself, and detect on-the-fly
when it exits "for some reason", there could be certains cases where side effects
could happens when it is not launched and quit on that way, we are still testing
this and may for the official release of further version this change.


This is bad for user that have different log file directorys!
Or add an cli option for different log places...

Quote:

Quote:

But .... to use Amigift finally with the announced V1 feautures i musst pay for 2.0 .........



what !? the ONLY feature present on the V1 which needs reg on the v2 is the
locator, and only because it has been rewritted from scratch, previously
the inspector and locators was launched using subprocesses/threads, now the
sockets communication system has been completely rewritted as well, and the
locators are launched on the same task context by using asynchronous sockets.

You pay for the giFTMui 2.0 optional features only (and there are some new
features which do not needs reg), and ofcourse to help us on the developend
on which thousands of hours have been used!

If you do not want to pay, no problem... this 2.0 version without reg is
intended to be usable like the olds 1.x... yes, excepting the locator thing
but thats currently a pre-release and everything is subject to change...


The locator and the inspector is for user that not DL only a mp3 [~5MB] or
the new Cinema blockbuster [hundred of sources] very essential !
For rare stuff [hentai anime of course ..], only a few or only 1 source
is available .. without the locator .. found more is a pain !!
And without the inspector [that search automaticaly from time to time the
network] it is nearly impossible to DL rare stuff ...
And the V1 have multi-list !It is not the payment the problem [have payed
allready ] .. but the restrictions to basic for a use ...

Quote:

Quote:

Better to named the V2 "-DEMO-" ....



Do you know what really means "shareware" and "demo" products? ...then how
you can claim this to amigift !?

amigift ISN'T shareware AT ALL!

it is fully useable as-is, no timeouts, no adware, no spyware, just the new
functions needs reg to be of use, as Ive mentioned already.


This is the point i read before ... The V1 was more usable !
[if i have not the inspector crashes ..]

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have no actuall P2P protocol [eDonkey]..



Actual ? Ares is more actual than EDonkey..
....................


mmhh .. have now connected to Ares .. -> 2 users ...
"Actual" is IMHO more than only 2 user online ....
And the biggest file list is imho on eDonkey ...
[the newest network technologie is useless without users and files to share ........]

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@R-TEAM, post #42

Quote:

start the daemon seperate from cli and not from the giftmui ->
rename the giftd to giftd_
copy the cpu command as giftd to his place
reboot your Amiga ..
after reboot start the TCP stack ..
Then start the giftmui programm ..
CLOSE the giftmui programm ...
THEN start the daemon over a CLI ..
AND then start the giftmui again ..



I do not want to offend nobody, but thats the more stupid thing I have never heard (sorry if Im being too honest x-P)

Double-Clicking on the giFTMui icon does the same

"start giftmui and then close it" you told, and well, whats the purpose of
this thing !? doing that giftmui will automatically start the daemon, if then
you quit giftmui very quickly you can probably end up with corrupted nodes
files or others even worse side effects!..., on the startup proccess giftd needs
some time to load the nodes and banlist files (which are generally big in size)
if you break it at this step it is most likely that some corruption could happens...

and after this you claim to re-run the daemon this time "by hand" from cli and then
giftmui again, sorry but I see that as a totally senseless action, IMHO


he,he .. no problem ..
BUT .. if this a silly action .. IT WORKS !
If i start amigift first time and the deamon is allready running ..
With a big chance the same problem comes that have VooDoo !!
It loads giftmui .. say "welcome" .. and then comes this very tiny window
only with a "ok" button .. if i click on this .. giftmui quits ..
and than come the window "stabilising chat connection" or simmilar ..
and by quiting .. he shut down my daemon too
soo ... with my "silly" usage .. i start first giftmui .. he CANT run the daemon
and i quit it with no problems .. THEN i run the daemon per CLI .. and run
giftmui then second time .. and it works like a charme [except the other problems ..]

Quote:

Quote:

On my system [060/OS3.9.3+] the new giftd relase [04.06.06 ] dont connect to the older [build107]
or new [build108] giftmui .. only with the older giftd [02.06.06] it rund fine with both
giftmui version [have now the -build108- in use]



you dont know what you are saying...

thats the diff from giftd_02.06.2006 to giftd_04.06.2006 :

> if(__giftd_cleaned == FALSE)
> __safe_cleanup ( );

(used at program exit)

if you noticed such issue must be something else... can you imagine "the why" ?....


mmh .. i have a little programming knowing .. i understand the lines ..
but it IS true ! [dont ask me why ...]
I have with the 04.06 giftd relase ONLY yellow gnutella/fastrack lamps ...
[can wait 2h and nothing change ...]
With the 02.06 giftd relase i have good fastrack connection [green] and
very rare gnutella connections ......

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@all:
sorry for my bad english...


It cant more bad than mine ...
I have good ideas for Advanced features for often P2P use ..
but it is hard to translate this to english
Have you not a german speaking people in your team ... ?

Regards

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Re: AMIGIFT v2.0 pre-release notes
Posted on 14-Jun-2006 3:15:46
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Hi,

now i have my KeyFile

Thanks Diego !!

@pure_Amiga

I have only problems with the Gnutella plugin [nearly no connection], the OpenFT
network is ~35% down .. but is not so important.
Fastrack is ~95% connected and Ares ~100% [but with only 2 other users ....]
I have disabled the gnutella plugin .. if come a new giftd version i try this again..

My OpenFT node file stay here ... dont know from this problem ATM ..

ATM no file have uploaded .. but this is [for me] not a fakt ..
Have with V1 only very rare Uploads over Fastrack .. with gnutella i have many
uploads .. but the gnutella plugin is ATM not usable .. so i dont know 100% IF
this a bug or not ..

@All

With the keyfile i can finally disable the chat !!!
Can use multilists ... [nice and better usable as V1]
Can Rise the numbers of "search results" -VERY Important!- ....
And can disable "load/quit Deamon" !!

But ---
I dont know if the "Inspector" now working ..
Nearly every time a "Locator" is started [manualy or by inspector] this tiny error
window pop-up [have with scout managed to read the window title "gift fatal error"
.. the window itself is to tiny to read more than "gif.."] .. and after clicking of
the o.k. button giftmui quits
In the logfile in ram:t .. it writes "Internal Error: out of signals for new Timer !?"
..hopes for a new version ...
And another suspect held back ,in giftd.log it writes :
"*** GIFT-ERROR: Ares: Couldn't get hash from share 'DH1:Videos/SHR/Hentai - La Blue Girl Shin angel 3.mpg'."
this is writen for all my "Video" files i share .. only Ares have a problem with the Video files..

ATM i DL 3 files at ~30kb/s .. not bad .. [over fastrack]
Hope for sorting of the bugs ..

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Posted on 15-Jun-2006 2:01:14
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Hi,

update of my experience with the Reg. Version ...

Have new build a "share" datafile .. and now i have no errors more from
the Ares plug-in .. i think first time i created the datafile i have not
selected the Ares network in the daemon ..
So .. it crates only usable hash values for the networks thats selected ??

And i have now found "many more" files as the 2 listet in my status window
on Ares .. maybe an error ... [listet only 2 user and 2 files ...]

and the error : "Internal Error: out of signals for new Timer !?" is still
in my giftmui.log file .. but doing nothing IMHO .. except i launch
an locator .. nearly 95% chance giftmui quits with this little error
window ...

aaahh.. and i haved lost my openft nodes file too [size 0 bytes] .. but this
was after an system freeze .. i dont know if this amigift fault or not ..
[cant shut down the daemon regulary .. musst reboot]
but .. all other node files are O.K. ...

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Posted on 16-Jun-2006 6:47:19
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Hi,

he,he .. hope anyone is reading this

Summary from a couple of days with the Reg. Version and OpenFT/Ares/Fastrack
plug in enabled [only gnutella i miss ] ...

Have matches from all 3 networks ..
First comes matches from OpenFT and fastrack .. Ares matches take a LONG time to
apear .. so the complet search process takes longer ..

Have not sucessfull managed to DL anything from other networks than fastrack
[o.k. .. ~200kbyte complett DL from OpenFT over 3 files (all files ~100MB) and
only One time .....]

The OpenFT is ~60% from the Time offline
Ares is nearly 100% online .. but it comes often :
...........*** GIFT-WARNING: Ares: Recv failed from 207.212.26.171:30484
[07:17:16] Internal Error: out of signals for new Timer !?
[07:17:16] *** GIFT-WARNING: Ares: Recv failed from 207.212.26.164:30484
[07:17:16] Internal Error: out of signals for new Timer !?
[07:17:16] *** GIFT-WARNING: Ares: Recv failed from 207.212.26.185:30484
...........
And in stats only 2 user with 2 files listed ..?

Fastrack is ca. 90% online ..[but even the lamp is yellow .. search results
coming from fastrack ...? ]

The problems i have with AmiGift ATM :

Nearly locator no usable [so inspector too not usable ]
No DL from other Networks as Fastrack
No gnutella at all ..
Haved 2 giftmui crashes if i click on a file in the search results if i resize
the file name lenght field after search ..
A problem is to shut down save the daemon if giftmui crashes
On fresh startup the Amigift system run fine and with very good search results ..but
the longer time the amigift system running .. the sluggisher respons the amigift system [longer
dealys from "klick" on search to come the first results and very less results and
often long dealys from giftmui updating the stats or "swallow" from giftmui on
the socket link to giftd (no updates anymore,only after quiting giftmui the giftd.log
is writen continue ..) i think ..]

aahh .. and at the complet time now i have V2 .. NO ONE Upload .. on all networks !

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Posted on 17-Jun-2006 2:20:24
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Hi,

/me thinks i talk to my self

Summary2 :

The multilist feature have bugs left , it is dramatical slower on search then the
1 list display .. and it makes giftmui -build109- very unstable .. have 3 crashes
with multilist .. without multilist no crash [only the locator issue]

The Ares plug-in uses in the giftd.log [after the initializing] nearly 90% of the
space with log entrys .. mmhhhhhhh ..? [only rare openFT/fastrack entrys]

soo .. to the above problems come the multilist problem in addition ...
And the "image" realm doing nothing .. still come "Videos" in search only !
The "audio" realm work

for an V2 relase ... mmhhhh ....mmhhhh ...

Hope for continue developing [or eMule on Amiga ] ....
{to clarify - it is not the payment or the slow developing .. but the V2 is
for me WITH registered less usable than the V1 .. the only advantage i see
is, i dont musst reset my system clock to make it working ....... ... ...}

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Re: AMIGIFT v2.0 pre-release notes
Posted on 17-Jun-2006 17:39:31
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Hi all,

@R-TEAM

I have a BIG doubt about if you are here to help or to boicot amigift.

Can't you see that your reports are almost USELESS without any segtracker/muforce/sashimi report ? of course you'll not post those reports here, so why you dont use the right place for this (bug-tracker/ML)?, it's too annoying...

May someone could see my reply as not proper, but ie our betatesters hadn't problems with multi-list and therefore we need those reports, r-team if you can't provide us the reports we'll understand you're just trolling and we will ignore you, sorry.....



@pure_Amiga:

The OpenFT thing should be "fixed" for the next build, well... it isnt fixed (just a workaround) in the sense thats a behaviour from the plugin which nodes we're we was unable to connect are not written back to the nodes file...(you'll see more info about that on the changelog)

About the uploads, thats something Ive not quite tested myself, but iirc at some time..(long time ago, thouhg) ive noticed some upload, but we'll recheck that ofcourse

@all:

a new full build is comming, for the next week or so



Kind Regards,

Diego Casorran.
AMIGIFT Maintainer.
http://amigift.sourceforge.net/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/amigift/
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Hi,

@diegocr

mmmh.. i will REALY Help .. but i hope you understand my partly sarcastic notes..

With the V1 of AmiGift a big dream from the Amiga P2P interested people come true ..
Many things have not worked as suspected ..
This was no problem .. it was the first public relase ..
Then comes quickly a couple of updates [not easy for all user to install .. i have
no problems like this ..] and many bugs fixed ...
Then come LONG time nothing .. the gnutella time shutdown and i am very NOT happy ..
[i have searched 2 full days the error on my Amiga system .. then i test (more
as the "last non realistic chance" before dissasemble the Amiga) the system time ..
and you can not imagine my face as gnutella working .........]
Then the giftd shutdown come .. now i musst reset my system time ever i will run
amigift .. this make the use of another Web based programms [webbrowser/ICQ ..]
very painfull [coockies time out as example]
Then i see the anounce of the LONG awaiting V2 !!
And i think "WOW .. V2 .. this musst a BIG step.."
.... .... ... ... ......
And now .. i musst never reset my clock ...[this is the realy only thing that is
positive for me as user on the V2 on my system -OS3.9.3 A4000/060-66Mhz-]

I dont know from the developing behind the visible things...
But the summary is not so good ..
All my above marked problems i have ..
Cant use the Locator [with V1 i could this]
The inspector is because of the locator problem unusable to [this was in V1 a crash from
the inspector]
The gnutella plugin connect nearly no time [with V1 i CAN connect to gnutella]
The OpenFT plugin have problems with connecting [but i have never this problem with
a erased (0-byte) node file - only one time after a system crash]
The Ares plugin show IMHO the wrong network stats
Cant DL anything except from Fastrack [and a few 100kb from OpenFT one time]
Have the complete time NOT ONE Upload
Have problems with Multi-List


I have not writen on the bug-tracker site because the entrys on this site come
from the old V1 version [and i think a couple from me too] and have from this time
never updated .. so i think this is irrelevant for V2
And a closed mailing-list is not "my thing" ..
[the former mailing-list was public ...]

I have pointed you in my e-mail on this report from me .. so you can read it
and i hope it helps [even a little] .. and probably helps others with problems too ..
[on a closed mailing-list .. only few people read the problems .. and i pointed above
my thinking over the bug-tracker (outdated i thinked) ]

I have no time to start every time i will run Amigift segtracker first [it costs system speed]
and amigift is not running one time and then i can reboot and work like always
[have ATM an bug hunt in the actual YAM-Dev .. and here i can reboot .. start with
a extra startup-sequence with disables my patches and start segtracker/cyberguard,
start sashimi and run YAM-debug to test this and show the problem come out (it is
ATM not happen ..) .. but Amigift musst running 24h on day for serious P2P ...]

I have only pointed my problems [and have a not so optimal english *sorry* ]
Have you in your Amigift team an German speaking member .. this became far simpler..

Hope you are not to angry with me [and understand my frustration] ....

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