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Events   Events : EFIKA PPC entry-platform at EBV TechTrends 2006
   posted by nickname on 4-Oct-2006 15:29:46 (7742 reads)
This autumn a wealth of PPC product announcements and prototypes have been brought forward in the quest for an AmigaOS 4.0 hardware target. One of the more interesting candidates for an effective market expansion might be the production-ready EFIKA, pairing low cost hardware (PPC SoC at 18 USD) with a typical light-weight OS for an enjoyable user experience.

PPCNUX wanted to find out what is behind this simple board and visited hardware veteran bplan at a German embedded electronics symposium to dig out more details.
    

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Re: EFIKA PPC entry-platform at EBV TechTrends 2006
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Re: EFIKA PPC entry-platform at EBV TechTrends 2006
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@crumb,

Sam insiders said that the 370-399¤ price was for the first boards aimed to developers. Read: a low number of boards. If and when the board hits the industrial market, bigger numbers of produced boards will make the price drop.


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if the EFIKA mobo runs MorphOS and only costs $99.. then I'll be the first to buy this motherboard.. regardless if its supported by the MOS devel team or not.

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if the EFIKA mobo runs MorphOS and only costs $99.. then I'll be the first to buy this motherboard..


if the EFIKA mobo runs Jackshit and only costs $99.. then I'll be the first to buy this motherboard..

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@Thread

Bty... I get sick of self appointed Amigaworld editors who jump on any MOS or Genesi related thread and accuse it of having nothing to do with OS4.

This site is called AmigaWorld.Net not OS4.Net. We all agree it's OS4 centric but I for one am interested in news and discussion about any Amiga related stuff.

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Re: EFIKA PPC entry-platform at EBV TechTrends 2006
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if the EFIKA mobo runs Jackshit and only costs $99.. then I'll be the first to buy this motherboard..


COOL! Thats two motherboards sold.. I'd like to see screenshots of your 'Jackshit' OS.

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Bty... I get sick of self appointed Amigaworld editors who jump on any MOS or Genesi related thread and accuse it of having nothing to do with OS4.

This site is called AmigaWorld.Net not OS4.Net. We all agree it's OS4 centric but I for one am interested in news and discussion about any Amiga related stuff.


Fully agree on that. We have an "Alt Amiga OS" section, so why can't people accept that related news are posted here? Is there really more interest in "news stories" of people destroying old computers than of upcoming PPC hardware platforms? Heck, *this* news was even called "spam" already.

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Cooor blimey mate!

What's happened to your avatar - are you turning into a Prince or David Ike fan?

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@Colin_Camper:
Jackshit != Linux, but it is close

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s there really more interest in "news stories" of people destroying old computers than of upcoming PPC hardware platforms?

It's interesting to see that after 10 years since I first saw a similar video, people keep trying to reinvent the wheel... nostalgy, oh the nostalgy

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What's happened to your avatar - are you turning into a Prince or David Ike fan?


Lol, don't hope so!

It seems to be a skin disease that appeared after installing MOS Powerup on my BPPC.

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Could anyone show me where Efika can be bought for $99/board please?

I always understood it as the $99 was when it was made in +50000 batches (will
it ever happen?).
Also wasn't the $99 just for poorer countries? Most of the western world
would pay more for it anyway.
Btw Efika cost $299/per board now doesn't it? And it can only be bought in batches
of 10 boards (smallest number) isn't it?


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ODM has a license for 50000 boards, so it definitely will happen.

ATM yes, Efika costs 299$ and 99$ for developers of poorer countries, but the final price will be around 99$ once the big production starts.


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@Samwel
If you do the math it's an 1.000.000$ deal, such company could might as well do a double license the OS4 from Amiga Inc...


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And insults wont change that.


Oh gosh! You see insults everywhere! Such thin-skinned people should be banned from the internet.

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What math? I simply asked about the price and not if it's a viable product/company for
Amiga Inc (which it of course is). So I think I won't do any math because in the end it's up to
Amiga Inc., whatever my personal POV on the matter is.


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I'm just wondering when you not only became a spokesman for Amiga, Inc., Samface, but also became able to foretell the future!


Drop the silly sandbox-rethoirics and make your case. Any reason to doubt my claims?

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But I do agree with you that there's no point in anyone arguing about or even discussing Efika and AOS. As with any other possibility, if it happens, it happens. There's no way for any of us to really know what these companies really want to and can do, and certainly no way to influence any outcomes.


Sorry, I just can't see the "possibilities" you are refering to without atleast some kind of plausible theory to back it up. Maybe it's possible in another alternative universe or something, which by your reasoning would also be a "possibility" in itself. Please get back down to earth and be realistic for a change.

Although, I agree as much that nothing you and I discuss here or anywhere else will change the outcome of anything.

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The problem is, you're being too logical about all of this. Things especially in this "market" are often done for "political" reasons, not logical ones.


Political reasons can be and are most of the time very logical. Avoiding making business with a former business partner that violated your trust and turned against you in the past is one perfect example. In such case, any offer, no matter how appealing it may seem in itself, is of very little value if it comes from that former business partner. It is perfectly logical and the most sensible thing for your business to avoid misfortunes of the past to repeat itself.

Of course anyone representing or in any other way favoring that former business partner would argue that it is not a "logical" business decision. Go figure.

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While gary_c speaks of the irrationale with "political" business decisions, you speak of the better good for specific products with emphasis on what would represent the greatest quantity of potential sales, as if there wouldn't be anything else to consider when running a business. There really is no better example than when Amiga Inc. tried to push their AmigaDE onto more potential hardware platforms by signing a certain license agreement with a certain german hardware manufacturer called Thendic some years back. We all know how that ended, right?

You cannot just look at the potentials of a business proposition, it is extremely important to be careful with whom you sign business contracts with and that you maintain atleast some level of basic protection for your business and it's intellectual properties. Amiga Inc. and their partners was burnt once before and nearly lost their entire product line and all related intellectual properties, something to keep in mind when judging their business decisions.


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There really is no better example than when Amiga Inc. tried to push their AmigaDE onto more potential hardware platforms by signing a certain license agreement with a certain german hardware manufacturer called Thendic some years back. We all know how that ended, right?

Even when they're wrong they're right.. you're a lost case Sammy...


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