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Announcement   Announcement : Genesi: Announcing MorphOS Support on Efika 5200B
   posted by ironfist on 23-Nov-2006 13:26:18 (15547 reads)
Genesi is pleased to announce that the next public release of MorphOS will support the Efika. MorphOS is a lightweight and flexible operating system and Efika is a low-power and silent miniature mainboard based on the Freescale MPC5200B Power Architecture™ SoC.

Genesi Press Release
MorphOS Team Announcement


The Efika 5200B is available on the PegasosPPC.com store. The retail price is $199 - please contact the sales team for reseller and bulk discounts.
    

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Re: Genesi: Announcing MorphOS Support on Efika 5200B
Posted on 23-Nov-2006 18:42:11
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I'm sorry but i can't deal with the fact that bbrv, aros people, mos people, come here, and are allowed to post news, etc. They were the very reason i left a.org. at the time. I really wanted a site which was only dedicated to OS4, AA, Amiwerse, etc., and i loved it when amigaworld came along.


I don't like some of the people you've mentioned either, and yes, I mean people on the MOS and AROS side. Do you know what I do about it? Unless if I have any constructive argument against it, I plainly *ignore it*. Is it THAT hard to do? What on earth is the Amiwerse, by the way?

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but now it's becoming a.org again, thanks to letting people like you moderate it....you are a MOS fanboy are you not?


Oh, right! I am? Thanks for the insult. If my skin was as thin as yours, I would had it edited out, but it's not: I've been moderating posts by MorphOS and OS4 fans alike: For violation of the terms of service of this website. As of today, I have moderated more posts by people on what you like to call the "blue side" than anything else. I will never delete a message because I do not like its contents. If you want that, sorry, you are knocking on the wrong door, no moderator on this website will do it. Besides, the reason I am a moderator was that I received votes from this site's users and not wanting to let anyone down committed *my* time to do it. Being a moderator is not fun, it's a *job* you volunteer for. A mistake and you will be held responsible, a good moderation and no-one will even care that it was you that made it. If you think that it's oh-so-nice and that I'm here to serve an agenda you think I have, why aren't you one then?

I am a MorphOS *user* that is also interested in AmigaOS4. I'm no-one's fanboy.

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Re: Genesi: Announcing MorphOS Support on Efika 5200B
Posted on 23-Nov-2006 19:05:45
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Hondo:
The news item was posted by me. I am not BBRV nor any "mos people".
I like PowerPC in general and I see the Pegasos as the current supreme
PowerPC desktop platform.

But in your opinion I am not allowed to post important PowerPC news? Maybe
you didn't know, but Hyperion's AmigaOS 4.0 currently runs on PowerPC only.
Sorry to give you this shocking news.

By the way, I reported your first post in this thread as trolling/flame bait. You
should stay away from these threads if they bug you so much. I don't think
it really matters how much you cry here. The moderators and administrators
decide what's on topic for this website. You don't.

One more thing, no news items appear before some moderator approves it.

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Re: Genesi: Announcing MorphOS Support on Efika 5200B
Posted on 23-Nov-2006 19:08:25
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I totally aggree with you guys. BBRV and his fans using this site to advertise their new toy. Just compare the number of visitors on Morphzone and this site and you will see why they came here.
Yeah it's nice to hide behind "I'm interested in OS4 too" sentences but on the other hand most of them is just criticizing every positive happenings with OS4. Very nice interestment, yeah...
It's also easy to say: "You don't care? Ignore!" yes. That's why I'm here and not on Morphzone/etc sites!! And now when I came here a big news item flashes into my face. Why do we need to have a news item like this on several sites?

BTW: Am I the only one who see while "the other side" can came in, no more 'stability problem' with aw.net?

Ah, and I almost forget: It's just my humble opinion.

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Re: Genesi: Announcing MorphOS Support on Efika 5200B
Posted on 23-Nov-2006 19:14:37
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@ All again.

The moderation of AW.net has been discussed many times allready before. In the end, most people seem to either want to read about this news or they don't care. Only a minority needs to complain about it.

Same can be said about Linux news, Playstation 3 news, Wii news and Windows threads. Some want it, some don't.

This is the last post in this thread about moderating and what is and isn't wanted on this site regarding news. Please read the TOS carefully.


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Re: Genesi: Announcing MorphOS Support on Efika 5200B
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I remember the times when this was strictly AmigaOS-related too and liked the site for that. That was what made the site grow and prosper.

Slowly the ways changed and others came in. Well, now they're here and crying about it is too late. Once you have accepted guests you accept being a host.

Like RWO said: perhaps it's time for a new Amigaworld.
Then again maybe it's all just too little too late.

 
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Re: Genesi: Announcing MorphOS Support on Efika 5200B
Posted on 23-Nov-2006 19:22:11
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@Hondo_DK
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You can call me what you like, but im not at all interested in "other" systems, and want to keep my focus on amiga.inc's and Hyperions plans, OS4-5-6, AA, and the future that will bring.......no matter how silent they are.

If i wanted to hear about MOS, AROS, WHATEVER OS, then i would visit the related sites. RWO is right, this site is turning into A.org, which at the end just before AW.net was made, was a terrible place!


You do not have to read things of no interest to yourself, and AW will remain OS4-centric. That does NOT however, mean, we should ignore 'major news' that is related. There have been some projects of benefit to multiple Amiga/Amiga-like platforms...to put on blinders and ignore anything outside of a very small scope like it doesn't exist, or is of no interest to anyone _besides_ you, is simply amazing. As an example, MorphZone is certainly a MOS-centric site, but that doesn't mean OS4 or AROS is never mentioned there, either. Please, show some tolerance.

@thread
Some statements I've read are starting to make Hitler look 'tolerant.'

ALL of this is WAY off-topic in this news item. For those of you who gripe whenever MOS or < insert something else to complain about > is mentioned in an OS4 thread, you are now guilty of the same thing you gripe about elsewhere.

Feel free to start a new thread, but further off-topic rants will be moderated.


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Re: Genesi: Announcing MorphOS Support on Efika 5200B
Posted on 23-Nov-2006 19:23:17
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Yeah it's nice to hide behind "I'm interested in OS4 too" sentences but on the other hand most of them is just criticizing every positive happenings with OS4. Very nice interestment, yeah...


As I am the one that just posted the "interested in OS4" part, I will reply to some points: I've never criticised OS4 (while I have discussed some things I don't like). Also, I have never advertised anyone's new toy in here, I used to support OS4-on-Peg for a while but then stopped as soon as I realised that it will never happen. I have criticised Troika before but as the *Troika* people can tell you, I am usually pretty constructive about it.

There are some people here for which I agree with you: They just slag off at any opportunity.
What can one do about it? When it's a blatant flamebait, it can be moderated, when it's recurrent it results to a nice holiday (not to the Bahamas ). Most other cases are protected by the fact that they are opinions.

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Ah, and I almost forget: It's just my humble opinion.


To all others, I might not like what he just said but this sentence DOES make a difference. It's different to say "I don't like this and that on this site and in my opinion without them it'd be better but that's my humble opinion" than to say "oh, you're that MOS fanboy moderator, it's your fault".


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Re: Genesi: Announcing MorphOS Support on Efika 5200B
Posted on 23-Nov-2006 19:36:19
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At first there seemed to be little interest from MorphOS team to officially support Efika and some users even got upset of the idea, as it's mainly targeted at the embedded market, like the Sam440 and not at the power user.

Generally the response seems to have been positive over at MorphZone. So I believe, different people, different opinions, different interesst. IMO a good (and newsworthy) decision made by MorphOS team.

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Re: Genesi: Announcing MorphOS Support on Efika 5200B
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perhaps it's time for a new Amigaworld.
Then again maybe it's all just too little too late.


Maybe making it clearer, that you don't like foreigners by naming the new site: PurifiedAmigaOS4only.net or something like that will help staying clean. I think it will be a dull place if you moderate all things out that are not 100% pure OS4.0 ...but feel free. I at least count three people who will go with you.

I understand that people do not want all kinds of general chatter in their forums. But as there seems to be not too much to say about OS4.0 at this time - looking at the posts in OS4.0 forums, other news and topics sneak in.

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Posted on 23-Nov-2006 20:01:30
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@Hondo_DK

Sorry, dude - i got your name back to front - that's what happens when you type in peoples names from memory.

I really can't understand your POV. I remember those days when AmigaWorld was a sanctuary from A.org, ANN and Moobunny.

The world has moved on, Christian and Wayne changed their perspectives markedly, the blue and red trolls are becoming more purple by the day. The world out there is not full of OS4 hating heathens.

Apart from Moobunny, all the sites are pretty tolerant of all things Amiga including this one. For some reason ex Amigan newbies tend to crashland on Amiga.org - back in the day a dozen blue trolls would pounce and put over a very biased perspective - now they get a very balanced viewpoint - like I said the world has changed.

I want AmigaWorld to stay OS4 centric - but don't try and force us into a very narrow perspective - we should all get along here.

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Posted on 23-Nov-2006 20:06:57
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Hondo,

Shut your trap. Three mods have already concerned themselves with your antics in this thread alone; one a) off-topic post, b) insulting post; c) post on moderation, will earn you a warning and suspension. Don't test me on this. If you don't like it here, just skip over "Log In". I remember your earlier, "friendly" days. You were one of the biggest trolls around, criticising the OS4 effort because it was taking too long or somesuch... my, my how times change...


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See AmiGRs comment above - Seer

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Re: Genesi: Announcing MorphOS Support on Efika 5200B
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AmigaGR. TBH, flaming is the only reason to post on this site.

and i realize you're not a native English speaker and you probably don't appretiate this, but calling someone a "spaz" is extremely mild. it's comparable to calling someone a "turnip head".

Removed last sentence. /tomazkid

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Is the Efika likely to be offered as a ready to run system like the mac mini? A nice system with memory, grahics etc and one of the Amiga OS variants would be very attractive.

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Ok, that's it. See ya next week. Have a nice vacation from AW
Consider this a warning as well. Read the TOS please.
- Seer

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Sigh... Removed stab at fellow members... Should I also refer to moderator request from the TOS ?
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I like Efika just because it's cheap hardware to test MorphOS and when I really do not like it, I can sell it again without much loss I think. But even then it's going to end in my car as a carputer I think.

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Re: Genesi: Announcing MorphOS Support on Efika 5200B
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Ok, recap

Everybody, read the TOS, it's not that hard.

Also have a look at posts nr
35
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Go back on topic please. Notice the moderator request in the TOS...

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In relation to the news item, it's nice to see some people finally kissing and making up.

I wish it could be universal...


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Come on now, seriously, what is this?

How come some people (only a few luckily, but obviously quite loud and angry ones) are perfectly OK with this site's discussions about "Playstation 3", "Microsoft makes claim on Linux code", "Steve Balmer vs. Linux", "Fedora Core 5 on PS3", "A question (or two) on RedHat Linux x86", "Installing Linux on a remote machine and *locally* running it", "Sun Set To Move On GPL License For Open-Source Java", etc (and *lots* of similar topics), while getting a freaking *heart attack* as soon as the first positive news *in years* about MorphOS - a *brother OS* in the Amiga community (that runs on Amigas, runs Amiga applications, has supported Amiga developers and Amiga dealers for years, helps keeping users on the platform, etc) - is mentioned in *one single news item*?!



This is very strange. I promise the moderators that I am not going to go further down this road after this post, but had to make a reflection about this. Some posts in this thread is a school-book example of the zealot extremism that people are having so much fun at over at most other community sites (using wordings as "teh reel!!1!!1!" (only that it was correct spelling this time) etc). Think about that!

Please people - those who cannot stand this subject, can't you simply leave this thread (only this thread, not the site) and read one of the *many other* threads instead?

And to you who remains in the thread, can't we please go back *on topic* and start discussing *the opportunities* this may bring to everyone who wants to take part of it, be they users in this community, SW developers, HW developers and system integrators, community dealers, etc?

Make not !

This is a time for not

Let's discuss not

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