@Rob

Well, it looks like they preferred to harvest themselves while they were getting money for every AmigaOne sold. Now it is gone, so is their interest in distribution.

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Congratulations to Hyperion and Acube

seems like a clever move!

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Now, we have need of Sam

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Now Amiga 1200!

Sounds promising *sigh*

But how soon I remember all the other promising announcements.

Anyhooo - congradulations Hyperion and ACub. I hope this equates to more OS4 on more platforms and more profits for Amiga companies.

*crosses fingers*

@RedMelons

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Is there any significance to the phrase 'Hyperion's Amiga OS 4.0'? I thought Hyperion were contracted to produce OS 4.0 by AInc?

My thoughts exactly. Maybe the legal 'discussions' have concluded?

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@elatour who said Quote:

7 days and counting...

Will you PLEASE give it a rest? What reactions do you hope to cause by all this melodramatic stuff? The only possible result I can see, is that you hope to drag other Amiga users with you, when you Leave The Amiga in 7 days. That seems quite a nasty thing to do.

I gave-up 6 months ago expecting OS4 to get sorted any time soon, I got on with other things, and have been much happier as a result.

edit: Why don't you just leave now? Seems you have virtually made-up your mind already.

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Amiga comunity really looks pathetic. Companies should be really smart to write their announcement because you will read every single sentence and see in them some secret cospiracy.

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On the assumption that they have NOT reached an agreement with Amiga Inc (I hope to be proved wrong), I think they WERE really careful with how they wrote their announcement. The reason for the confusion is that this announcement wasn't (primarily) intended for us, it was intended for Amiga Inc. Amiga Inc knows the true state of play, and therefore only they can correctly interpret the nuances of what was said by Hyperion.

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I never understood why an embedded board (like Sam) would contain an FPGA - it's expensive, and surely not very useful for most embedded systems?

Sorry, but an FPGA is _very_ useful for embedded systems. Such systems needs to interface with the most strange hardware out there (industrial machinery, etc..). An FPGA is a wildcard to access this kind of markets.
Just note this: the FPGA on the Sam is not "closed" inside the card, but has plenty of available pins to connect it to the outside.

Suppose you had to interface the Sam (or any board of such kind) to CrazyBus92, an hypotetical industrial bus created years ago for a niche market. If you hadn't the FPGA, you would have to build an expansion card just for this purpose or redesign part of the mainboard. With the FPGA, you reflash the chip and just do some soldering.

@ikir

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Amiga comunity really looks pathetic. Companies should be really smart to write their announcement because you will read every single sentence and see in them some secret cospiracy.

I don't think it's bad to be objective, at least not when it concerns anything
Amiga. All you who applauds this news item, why do you use such strong
words against those that are a bit more sceptic. Whiners, nitpickers,
FUD spreaders,pathetic commuity etc. Why all the labels ?

Why do we always have to believe everything what's said when history
tells you that it's mostly quite the opposite.

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AFAIK Hyperion has always used another company to distribute their products. Titan Computer and Haage & Partner were responsible for distribution of their games in the past.

Hyperion appointing another company to 'distribute' OS4 makes no sense at all, unless something very fundamental has changed. We've been told time and time again that OS4 can only be sold packaged with licensed hardware - which means Eyetech's now-dead A1 range.

What's the point in being distributer for an OS that you cannot legally sell?

No, there's some background to this announcement that we don't know about. It's pretty typical of the Amiga 'market' - a nonsensical announcement that answers no questions, but causes lots of new ones, and which seems to have been written for the sole purpose of causing annoyance and frustration among people who'd actually like to know what is going on.

Until the missing pieces of the jigsaw are revealed, this is all meaningless.

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@DrBombcrater
You are forgetting the version for the classic.
It could also be so that A1 users will get a chanse to buy a version with full package+manuals for a reduced price.

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Poster: ikir Date: 26-Mar-2007 5:06:55 Amiga comunity really looks pathetic. Companies should be really smart to write their announcement because you will read every single sentence and see in them some secret cospiracy.

Well, first off, I would say congrats to Hyperion and to ACube. This means that all of those out there with classic machines and PPC expansions can finally get in on OS4. It's a start, and one that is well over due. I will add that it makes me feel a bit better this is coming from ACube, which Bill McEwen spoke positively about in his last Q&A.

But to address the "pathetic" viewpoint, can you really be surprised that so many people are skeptical over this news item. It is a bit ambiguous in outlining if they mean exactly the listed range of PPC hardware, or if that "range" also could include SAM and future products. I read it as meaning specifically the range of hardware listed, which could indicate that things may not be settled with Amiga at all, and Hyperion are just moving forward with what they can legally do.

But you see, when you have a community who knows there are problems between the two "parents" and yet, one "parent" issue a news item that has loose interpretations, without even addressing the known issues, that's exactly what will happen. People will fill in the blanks and try to figure it all out, because there are missing and vital bits of info that are still unknown. After 13 years, I'm surprised there is anyone left here to be skeptical at all.

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wait mode off

Good news... congratulations to Hyperion and ACube...

/wait mode on

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Ikir wrote

Companies should be really smart to write their announcement

It is a rule for every reasonable company. Are you surprised?

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@Karhsan: In my opinion next time read a little bit more before drawing (and spreading) your wrong conclusion about the AmigaOS4 distribution.

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Or can SAM be re-named Amiga One, and sold as there exists a license

Maybe I wasn't too wrong at all

Link here

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01/03/2007 EYETECH GROUP LIMITED


LOL you couldn't make it up.

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It is a bit ambiguous in outlining if they mean exactly the listed range of PPC hardware, or if that "range" also could include SAM and future products. I read it as meaning specifically the range of hardware listed, which could indicate that things may not be settled with Amiga at all, and Hyperion are just moving forward with what they can legally do.

It's ambiguous as hell! In this environment any news is good news but we need to know more about OS4.0 on the SamEP440. Is it ever going to happen? I'm not exactly going to run out and buy a Blizzard PPC card off Ebay now am I??!!!

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i.e. ACube *is* going to distribute AOS4.0. Another fact (which is a container of the fact above) is that ACube works together with Hyperion (to push AmigaOS 4.0 forward, of course). Besides these facts, there are hints that something good is about to come. But not because they are just hints the facts above are not facts. By saying that the announcement contains "only words .... very vaque words" you only spread more of the same old FUD.

Those facts you're talking about are to be expressed in the future, so they're still words, declarations of intentions... and interesting it is that Amiga OS 4 is referred as of Hyperion.

But for you everyone's a troller, so everyone might be a fuder too..

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