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OMG, you again. Will you, please, stop bashing Hyperion just becouse you don't like them? They did not lie about completion of OS4, and you by claiming that show that you don't know what you are talking about. Why don't you go to that other site (for the record, I don't have anything against other sites that deals with Amiga-like OS's) where I saw you talk about how you went to AW.net and purposely wind up people here, and how we are loosers and pathetic for likeing AOS4.0. Grow up!

This is not my word but words of amiga inc's Bill McEven when explaining the reasons for going to court. I don't recall the topic but it was here, on aw.net.

Also, i NEVER sad os4 fans are loosers or pathetic. These words i don't use on forums. I just think os4 users and fans will waste their money and i said i don't think aw.net should deal only of os4 and not mos, aros.... Just because mos is not made by ainc, it is not a reason it is not amiga. As someone before said; amiga is not just a name, it is a way of working and thinking. Name is not important.

Heck ppl, i will buy efika just for fun. Why the hell whould i need amiga-like system with no mozzila? Browsing is the only thing i use my pc. Only! And remember that in serbia $99 + peripherals are pretty much money here. Believe me!

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@Shoe
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Why should Apple promote Microsoft products on their homepage?

You mean like advertising that software like MS Office, MS IE, or perhaps hardware like MS Optical mice are available for Apple computers.

The rest of the computing world realised interoperability was more profitable than tribalism, ie they grew up.
Isn't it about time the Blue/Red worshippers did the same?

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@Srbin:
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At least genesi didn't lie.

Are you sure?

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Since july 2003, Genesi started to not pay their bills. They told it was a temporary problem and payments were on their way. They did so for months, while people kept working. They claimed many times to have issued payments. Those never arrived.

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And before anyone else jumps down on that comment, I know aw.net is not amiga.com, but it might as well be. It has better status in the community and more hits on google. So essentially aw.net has a bigger impact on the net than amiga.com. That's my point.

It might as well be AMIGA, and as such it doesn't have to bows toward Amiga INCORPORATION, but what Amiga is,was, and stood for, and that you cannot do without referring to either AROS, MorphOS, UAE...

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Since july 2003, Genesi started to not pay their bills. They told it was a temporary problem and payments were on their way. They did so for months, while people kept working. They claimed many times to have issued payments. Those never arrived.

I know about that problem. But the problem is obviosly long ago solved because mos team would not make any progress since then, right? This is logical. Would you work for same boss if he doesn't pay you?

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Chip:
What kind of transport was that, boat?

I ordered two IDE flashdrives you plug directly into the
IDE-port from USA. They only used FedEx and it costed
about 60 USD to ship the small envelope to Sweden.

More expensive than the flashdrives!

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@Chip

Please stop trolling. Everyone here is perfectly aware of Thendic's (Genesi's) financial crisis in 2003. Guess what, they got over it. That's why you see a $99 Efika today, and MorphOS 2.0 on the way for it. What happened then is history, but it it's still that history that lead us to where we are today, and today is quite good if you ask me! And you will not find a single case of an end-user that is unhappy with Genesi's customer service, that I can promise you. If I were you I wouldn't worry too much about what happened to MOS developers half a decade ago, when OS4 developers may face pretty much the same thing *today*. Or do you really believe that an "OS4.net" is impossible? Think about that.

@Srbin: In that case why this site still online?

@ironfist: Air transport.

@tmhgm: If someone shows something what you don't like, that doesn't mean trolling. Srbin stated something what doesn't seems true as you look back a bit in the History. If those issues are already solved - as you states -, why does the site still online?
And please stop telling me what should I do, because I don't care. As you wouldn't care in case I'd say what you should do. In my opinion...
Thank you.

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I don't know why this site is still on. Who know, maybe a long term hosting is payed and they forgot about it? They have new site now

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That site is the work or Mr. Gerber (Zapek) himself, and noone else.
Zapek has included people on that site without even the guys know-
ledge. They have tried contacting Zapek to remove it, but he just
ignores their mail.

Zapek's "ransom" of MorphOS turned out to be a miserable failure.
It's easy to realize that since then, there have been several MorphOS
updates and MUI-releases. Guy #2 even released MUI 4...

Oh, by the way. Ambient went further with community development
than it could ever have done with just Zapek working on it.

Zapek is a miserable failure.

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@Chip

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If someone shows something what you don't like, that doesn't mean trolling.

I agree, it was your intent behind bringing it up here makes it trolling.

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If those issues are already solved - as you states -, why does the site still online?

I never stated that "those issues" were solved. On the contrary, that site is run by David Gerber, an individual that (as far as I understand) *will never* get one more dime from Genesi, and that site is a personal vendetta thing from him. I think it's reasonable to assume that the morphos.net site will be online *forever*. But actually, that doesn't matter a bit. History moved on, and that site stayed behind. It has lost its purpose, it doesn't matter anymore. Time rendered it obsolete years ago already! You are among the last few who hasn't understood this yet.

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Zapek is a miserable failure.

I don't know about that (I don't know the guy), but at least his "morphos.net" effort was proved to be a grand failure...

The guy falsely assumed that both the Genesi and the MorphOS ships had sunk, and the morphos.net site was actually his testimony to the public to why things went the way they did. Look at the headline for example: "MorphOS - the end of an era", and the image of a gravestone with a blue butterfly and the text "R.I.P".

Of course, neither the Genesi ship nor the MorphOS ship ever sunk. Time proved him wrong, and quite quickly too. Sure, there was a storm, but both Genesi and MorphOS (obviously!) made it to a safe harbor (different ones, but at least on the same continent). Again, time rendered the morphos.net site obsolete years ago already, and those who think Gerber/Zapek is a friend of the MorphOS team is quite wrong AFAIK. At least I drew that conclusion from reading many online posts from the other MOS Team members...


Now who did the time prove right?

morphos.net / Zapek:




Or the MorphOS Team / Genesi:



Yes!

That's right!

Case closed!

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Please stop trolling. Everyone here is perfectly aware of Thendic's (Genesi's) financial crisis in 2003. Guess what, they got over it. That's why you see a $99 Efika today, and MorphOS 2.0 on the way for it. What happened then is history, but it it's still that history that lead us to where we are today,

Jesus christ, its an irony bomb! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES FELLAS!!!

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Jesus christ, its an irony bomb! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES FELLAS!!!

A bomb made of iron?

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@Srbin

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This is not my word but words of amiga inc's Bill McEven when explaining the reasons for going to court.

No, those were your words. Do I need to remind you?

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Forget hyperion. If they were to make os4 3 years ago (by contract), why would i trust them?

So first you claim that AInc lies (no arguing about that), then you go on and claim that something else that AInc said is true?
And who is asking you to trust Hyperion when it's obvious that you are not interested in OS4?

If you don't understand what is it I'm complaining about let me say it this way.
I don't see how can you address to AInc and Hyperion as one entity?
Not in this post but you did it a couple of times before.

In this post YOU are claiming that Hyperion didn't do what they were supposed to do (by contract), and as I said before,
that just shows that you don't know what you are talking about.

Hyperion agreed to make their 'best effort' to complete the job within four months.

After that point all sort of things came to light, that Hyperion was not aware of, such as:

- not receiving sources for 3.5 and 3.9,

- H&P withdrawing from the OS4 project,

- finding out that AInc couldn't deliver even all of the 3.1 sources

- and so on.


So please tell me what in your opinion makes Hyperion such horrible liars.

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And remember that in serbia $99 + peripherals are pretty much money here. Believe me!

Would you be so kind to take a closer look to that small text field, under my avatar, that states where I'm writing this from!!! Thank you.

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@TMHG
Is it Ambient running on MorphOS 2.0?
If so, how come, if not what then...

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pixie:

The picture was from a current MorphOS build (i.e. 2.0 beta) for the Efika.
The window transparence function is an example result of the hardware accelerated GUI system of 2.0.
You'll see more of that soon.

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I agree, it was your intent behind bringing it up here makes it trolling.

How do you decide what is my intent? Just because I have a different opinion? Gee...

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No, those were your words. Do I need to remind you?

As far as i recall, bill's words were that hyperion didn't fullfill their obligations. As to the rest of your post, it might be the truth. But who ever is right, it would be a pretty long process without winners and end-users (us) would have to wait, and wait, and wait....

I AM interested in os4, but where the heck is it? Do we have to wait years of judging to finally get some os or put some serious guys take the game?

And aros? If it ever become usable, i believe it would take amiga market. Even apple went x86, why would not amiga go the same way?

At least ex-amiga users would just try it. I don't think many would buy efika, sam, a1.... for just trying. But on present pc's.... who knows...

but OF

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