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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent Posted on 1-Aug-2007 0:28:38
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| Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent
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Well ... duh! As if they were ever going to come through with the money! |
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent Posted on 1-Aug-2007 1:36:50
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent Posted on 1-Aug-2007 4:08:19
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Bleecch!! I can see why you spewed it
That said, I agree completely. And where are you from sir? First time we've seen you around... Last edited by Legion on 01-Aug-2007 at 04:10 AM.
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent Posted on 1-Aug-2007 9:04:16
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| @fairlanefastback I never said that Amiga Inc's decisions were very sensible, but when has ANYTHING they've done been sensible?!? My stated theory (well hypothesis) is simple one possibility, but one that seems better than these others:
- Amiga Inc never intended to pay for the event centre, they just wanted free (bad) publicity to further tarnish their name. Hmmm, yeah, great idea!
- Amiga Inc never intended to pay for the event centre, they just wanted brief good publicity for the court case. That's completely rubbish, because the court case would have gone on far longer than their first payment was due for, unless they expected Hyperion to give-in VERY quickly (but then my own theory sounds quite plausible).
- Amiga Inc had a mystery investor willing to fund the initial $2.5 million, but he pulled out after the bad press about Amiga Inc. This seems possible, but unlikely IMHO. Someone putting that much money in should have looked into AI's past, and know of their previous problems.
- Amiga Inc had a mystery investor willing to fund the initial $2.5 million, but he pulled out after the bad press about Amiga Inc. The brief bit of bad press about AI would have been forgotten if they came up with the money. So this scenario doesn't make sense.
So unless I've missed anything, that leaves my own stated scenario, as being (only) slightly more plausible:
- Amiga Inc thought they had all the cards, and anyway Hyperion was too poor to fund a long legal battle, so that Hyperion would quickly give-in. It would be quite easy for the one or two top people to delude themselves that this was the case, and anyway AI's court behaviour seems to support this idea a bit. Surely you don't claim that AI went into this (very expensive) court battle, expecting to loose???
And if they expected to win, and probably quickly, then putting money into the Kent events centre sounds quite a reasonable thing to do. And AI always had the option to pull-out of the Kent events centre, in the 'unlikely chance' that Hyperion's case was better than they thought. Remember that these guys are used to making gambles with money, and Amiga Inc is probably just one pawn in their game _________________ Author of the PortablE programming language. It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue...
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent Posted on 1-Aug-2007 9:44:01
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They certainly do the best they can to destroy the brand. |
Dude, I told you that in 2000 already... |
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent Posted on 1-Aug-2007 10:51:30
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| What is funny, is that their is actually people on here that defend these clowns.
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent Posted on 1-Aug-2007 14:23:52
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Ok how about this theory (all theories being entirely conjecture)
Amiga knew the court case would likely take months. They entered into the deal to blow it so that they could add it as further evidence to the negative impact to their business that the lack of OS hand-over is causing and at the same time show as much tangible IP usage as possible.
What exactly was the benefit in your mind of blowing $2.5 million on this anyway?
Another theory: Also lets remember Bill was friends with the Thunderbirds, it might have also partially been a favor to help secure the state level funding. They might have just not expected so much heat from the press.
Another: Bill is mentally unstable and a bit delusional. Pentti dosen't care too much as Amiga is a good tax write-off and besides Bill can only spend the allowance he is given.
What actually is the reason is unclear but I'd really like someone to point out a true real world benefit for them doing this in the first place, with no products, whats the point? Last edited by fairlanefastback on 01-Aug-2007 at 02:25 PM. Last edited by fairlanefastback on 01-Aug-2007 at 02:24 PM.
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent Posted on 1-Aug-2007 18:40:13
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| Pathetic.... They're finally killing Amiga name. _________________ ikir
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent Posted on 1-Aug-2007 18:56:19
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| LOL! The news article has been removed from amiga.com What a bunch of jokers. |
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent Posted on 2-Aug-2007 5:43:50
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AROS on Intel is the solution, cheap hardware, spoiled for choice of peripherals. If there was a way that AROS could use MS Windows drivers... |
ReactOS® is an advanced free open source operating system providing a ground-up implementation of a Microsoft Windows® XP compatible operating system. ReactOS aims to achieve complete binary compatibility with both applications and device drivers meant for NT and XP operating systems, by using a similar architecture and providing a complete and equivalent public interface.
ReactOS All we need to do is add ReactOS source code to Aros and we will have support for both windows applications and device drivers. |
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent Posted on 2-Aug-2007 7:28:20
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent Posted on 2-Aug-2007 9:26:34
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| @fairlanefastback Quote:
Amiga knew the court case would likely take months. They entered into the deal to blow it so that they could add it as further evidence to the negative impact to their business that the lack of OS hand-over is causing and at the same time show as much tangible IP usage as possible. |
For what it's worth, I really like that idea.
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What exactly was the benefit in your mind of blowing $2.5 million on this anyway? |
It's very difficult to know WHAT Amiga Inc is planning, so it's quite easy to assume the worst about them. I will admit that it seems an obscene amount of money for what they'd be getting, but perhaps the positive publicity would help gain more investors, not to mention that they could casually mention it in damn near every press release. And as I said elsewhere, any attempt to increase OS4's market share is a long shot, so it's easy to shoot down any ideas they might have had for using OS4, but that doesn't mean they weren't planning it. The people behind AI/KMOS/etc are used to taking big risks.
Given the lack of evidence, you're not going to be able to convince me that AI were NOT planning something good, but neither can I convince myself they WERE planning something good either. I just think it's a possibility - and one whose probability is very difficult to gauge.Last edited by ChrisH on 02-Aug-2007 at 09:27 AM.
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent Posted on 2-Aug-2007 10:09:56
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent Posted on 2-Aug-2007 11:54:56
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True. The last thing of value they own (debatable I know)! Bought a second hand IBook and playing an old copy of Settlers 2. Taking a break from all this rubbish. Wake me up when Hyperion is the new Amiga _________________ "Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art." John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent Posted on 3-Aug-2007 21:17:01
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| I think I have worked out what "Amiga Inc's" game/bussiness plan is, It's a "tax loss money go round" an company makes money and has to pay taxes on the profit, however if they in vest in another company they haven't made so much so their tax burden is lower, however the company that has been invested in cannot just go and spend the money as eventualy they will have to give it back, all they can do is sit on it and live of the interest. The last thing the want is to make any money them selves as this would draw the attention of the tax men....
so anyone think I might be close?
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Re: Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent Posted on 4-Aug-2007 21:25:48
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"Most Impressing. I dont know how it works in the UK but such an affair gives very positive publicity the first weeks/months here in Scandinavia. People become aware of the company and they think they are doing well to sponsor a fine town as Kent. Later when they find out that the company is in trouble economicaly and can't pay up (Amiga Inc. in this case), they think something like -"Darned, I really liked Amiga back in the days. I wish I could help them"."
Eeh? What are you on? The Scandinavians you are talking about, are the Amiga lovers on SAFIR. Noone else gives a rat's #### about Amiga here. |
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