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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 28-Dec-2007 17:29:41
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mmh ... last time i checked this WAS a [in the past even a "only"] Amiga site who have anything related to Amiga ... so an Amiga fan is right here .. or not ? Or must an user here a to post have love to MOS/AROS AND "maybe" to Amiga .....?? Better rename this site then .... |
No need pal, the name is right, AMIGAWORLD, and guess what, AROS UAE MOS and maybe AMIGAOS4 are all part of it. If you don't like it perhaps you're better do some kind of time travel, because in this reality things happened his way, hurry! You're a bit late to rewrite history and the train is already leaving...
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A simply "No,dont need to transfer" cant enough ... [on this site] |
By this very own line of reasoning, perhaps the best thing to do would be not questioning it *at all*. _________________ Indigo 3D Lounge, my second home. The Illusion of Choice | Am*ga
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 28-Dec-2007 18:23:03
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| The renders look good, but on my system they are glacially slow. I think I must have effed up something. Between the downloading message and the appearance of the page, several minute elapse. I'll play with it again tonight, perhaps, and see if I can figure out what went wrong. |
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 28-Dec-2007 19:24:19
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| Thanbks alot for the big heads up I changed servers and forgot to update my profile. Now I have to goto other sites I'm pn and see if I forgot them. Been a heck of a year. Still rebuilding from last flood. hope I've gotr things set to prevent flooding this year.
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 28-Dec-2007 22:43:05
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| Sorry for hijacking this thread a bit!
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And so the MOS port is in distant of finished .. no work was done on the OS4 port ATM.IF the MOS port finished .. it will way more easy to collect bounty IF a port here already. |
I kindly suggest you keep quiet about things you don't know anything about. Code has already been modified to ease the porting to OS4, machinery has been delivered to Marcin, hours have been spend on email conversation, forum discussions etc. To change the bounty now would mean a total loss of credibility for me and any future Amiga related bounty.
I too would have preferred to see Sputnik 100% open sourced but that is not going to happen and those are the terms people have contributed to the "Sputnik for OS4 bounty" on.
Unlike the Mozilla bounty, money won't be stuck in this bounty forever, Marcin was delayed by the lack of hardware but still has to keep his part of the deal, offcourse within a reasonable time.
Work is continuing on the MOS version and as soon it hits a level where it is usable for everyday browsing Marcin will start on the OS4 port, will probably be after the next MOS beta is out! OWB wasn't an option back when Sputnik for OS4 bounty was started, please keep that in mind.
BTW. If you look at the dates off the donations made for the bounty you will see it was by no means hard to get the funding. Had I known it would have been that easy to get funds I would probably have started a 100% open source effort that could have had some broader backing (AROS, MOS, Classic, OS4).
Now as it is payday I suggest you donate a bit to Andrea and/or other OS4 developers! _________________
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 29-Dec-2007 7:44:14
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| Well, let me just reply to myself....
Seems that fc-cache generates a file in s: with a very long name. My system drawer does not have very long names turned on so my file gets a truncated name, then, since it can't be opened, it gets deleted.
creating it in ram: was ok. Now the renders are much quickier I guess since owb is no longer trying to build the font cache again and again. |
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 29-Dec-2007 8:19:33
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| Holy CR*P! I just saw my house on google maps .... ON MY AMIGA!!!!
That was cool. Unfortunately I couldn't post that news here using owb ... and it has slownesses still. But very cool. |
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 29-Dec-2007 14:39:15
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According to Pixie's comment you probably wanted to say: "ON MY MAYBE AMIGA!!!!"
Anyway, it's good to know google maps works fine with owb! Thanks! |
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 29-Dec-2007 16:57:47
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According to Pixie's comment you probably wanted to say: "ON MY MAYBE AMIGA!!!!" |
Last time I check Commodore wasn't on court with Amiga Inc... _________________ Indigo 3D Lounge, my second home. The Illusion of Choice | Am*ga
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 29-Dec-2007 19:14:16
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| Let's leave the legal issues out of the news item, please.
If MOS, AROS and UAE are 'Amiga,' AOS4 certainly is, regardless of any court outcome or debates. Let's leave it at that. _________________ Are we not done with the same silly arguments and flames yet??!
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 29-Dec-2007 20:48:33
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 30-Dec-2007 2:39:31
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So a browser using SDL to render its whole "interface" is in the spirit of Amiga. The spirit has got really low then. |
I agree about SDL. I am starting to hate all the OS4 games that use it, they are not real Amiga games, they just all seem to be rehashed 80's games made for some cross-platform 2d gfx API that steals all your CPU time. But, at his time, even an SDL browser is welcome!
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6 months to recompile something that has almost 0% specific os code would be more accurate (which means only only add tweaks/work arounds to the code so that it runs on a "not so posix" system). Just for the record, compiling webkit is the easy part. Now if you also just use SDL to do the real display work, there's nothing left to do (almost). The real work resides in the native backend used to display and handle content (which would rely on QT, SDL, MUI, Reaction, whatever). |
Well, at least he did it. We haven't yet seen anything from the other efforts. Maybe like the author of Sputnik said, "maybe because no one really ever tried." Something like that.
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I'm really surprised noone sees the difference between recompiling and actually porting a sofware using native toolkit, but well, nevermind. |
If it was so easy then what was all the fuss about raising $10,000 dollars to get a CSS browser on AmigaOS, namely Firefox, when this could have been done ages ago.
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Still, it this browser evolves it can be useful, but i don't see how it's comparable to any other effort, and btw, it would be completely useless to ib or aweb teams. |
For IBrowse, yes, as it kicks it where it hurts. But IB has CSS WIP for 3.0. For AWeb, it isn't useless, as they have been looking for a replacemement render engine, and this could be it. They were looking at KHTML last time, how does this compare? |
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 30-Dec-2007 15:01:58
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New OWB GUI v0.2 version is on OS4 Depot !!!! _________________ --
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Re: OWB - The first (in)complete modern Web Browser Posted on 7-Jan-2008 17:11:37
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OWB and IBrowse 2.4 tip:
Well, you can create a popup menu item in IBrowse 2.4 to launch OWB with the current URL.
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This is a great tip and I have it working. I would also like to do the samething but by using the Preference/GUI/Fab Menus/Link. So,that I could do a right click on a link and have it launch owb. Any thoughts, can it be done? |
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