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Software News   Software News : Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info
   posted by ssolie on 27-Dec-2008 15:51:35 (10049 reads)
Posting 1:
Due to lack of communication, slow development and broken deadlines I am sorry to inform you that the Sputnik bounty has been canceled. (Read more)


Posting 2:
With the recent announcement that the Sputnik bounty is canceled I feel that it is of great importance we support those browser projects that is actively developed for AmigaOS4. Amigabounty was not created with the intention to focus on existing projects but when we are talking browsers I would like to point you to two (very) active developers that deserves all the praise they can get.

Chris Young is porting the CSS capable browser NetSurf. Visit Unsatisfactory Software to read more about NetSurf and download the latest release.

Jörg Strohmayer is porting OWB to AmigaOS4 and it can be downloaded from the OWB website.
OWB is also CSS capable and based on the well known Webkit rendering engine used by companies such as Nokia, Google and apple.

Both browsers are looking really promising and I hope every AmigaOS4 user remember to thank those doing something for the platform. I am also sure that a donation is more than welcome, take a look at the respective websites to find the donate buttons, or at least keep them in mind for when you get money from the Sputnik bounty returned.

Posting 3:
How to get your money back.

All money from the closed Sputnik bounty will be returned to the people who so kindly donated. I just have to ask that all people who donated send me an email with their name and Paypal address(email).

Many people stated that they wanted to donate their money to other OS4 developers, if you want me to do that (to avoid further paypal fees) remember to say so (and to which project) in your email. I hope many people choose to support the actively developed OS4 applications.

Please send me the email before 31.01.2009 so I can get the money back to all of you (or to other OS4 projects) ASAP. If I haven't received any email by the end of January 2009 I will donate your money to the developers of the OS4 version of either NetSurf or OWB.

Sorry for the trouble this caused.
My email is tersking(at)gmail.com

Source: http://amigabounty.net


Mod edit, here is the text from the news item posted by Petah, deleted that one due to this item having more comments, we missed that this news item was already submitted, apologies for any inconvenience /tomazkid

A copy of the text from the news item submitted by Petah as follows:

Quote:

In a brief but shocking note, bounty manager Troels Ersking at AmigaBounty.net recently announced that the infamous Sputnik web browser bounty has been pulled back. Ersking states that the any further development efforts are unrealistic, and that the previous deadlines has been broken. On top of that, Ersking suggests that there would not have been a finished AmigaOS version of Sputnik in a foreseeable future. (Read more)

The Sputnik bounty was originally set up on February 14th 2007, raising a grand total of ¤3124.72 from AmigaOS users across the world. The bounty stated that a first working version should be released in the beginning of 2008. The bounty, minus service fees, will be repaid to all donors via the PayPal transaction service "as soon as possible".

It is currently unknown whether of not author of the closed source Sputnik web browser will continue developments for the foreign operating system it is currently targeted at. The statement doesn't specify whether or not the Sputnik developer will keep the AmigaOne computer that was sent to him for porting purposes.
    

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brotheris 
Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info
Posted on 29-Dec-2008 21:00:13
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You can install the adobe version via Iceweasel's own interface


Gnash and Adoble flash plugins GUIs are different enough to notice. And youtube works with Gnash

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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info
Posted on 29-Dec-2008 21:34:29
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@ All

Too bad it is cancelled. Sputnik looked very promising.
Even if there are two alternatives, one more would not be bad

OTOH, i have to admit that OWB rocks. Too fast!!!! Faster than Firefox now
....but 10 % of its functionnalities

Anyway, go on Joerg, you are GREAT!!!

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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info
Posted on 30-Dec-2008 7:55:49
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Sad thing to hear for you guys. But you have to see the other side of the coin.

This means to me, that whenever someone does not do his job he won't get an infinite number of extra 2 weeks. Actual decisions have been made. Hard Decisions. So take that as a moral victory of losing Sputnik.

Happy new year to ya.


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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info
Posted on 30-Dec-2008 9:15:36
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Adobe have released documentation for both Flash and Air support.

This won't magically gives you an Amiga player...

Guess what ? CSS/JS specs are open as well... Where is this Amiga browser ?


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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info
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@Leo
Quote:

Quote:

Adobe have released documentation for both Flash and Air support.


This won't magically gives you an Amiga player...

Guess what ? CSS/JS specs are open as well... Where is this Amiga browser ?


The CSS/JS browser for Amiga OS is called OWB.

Whilst Adobe releasing the documentation for Flash won't magically bring a Flash player to the Amiga, it does make it more likely. If anything, it makes it possible for open-source efforts (e.g., Gnash) to make a fully standards-compliant Flash player.

Hans


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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info
Posted on 30-Dec-2008 9:59:01
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BTW, another option might be swfdec. Some people claim that this one is better than Gnash.

Hans


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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info
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@Hans

Quote:

Whilst Adobe releasing the documentation for Flash won't magically bring a Flash player to the Amiga, it does make it more likely.


I doubt there would be an Amiga developer who would go to develop Flash player to the Amiga. Sputnik and OWB are based on open source projects and without it there would be no CSS capable Amiga browser. AWeb still does not support CSS, Ibrowse still does not support CSS, Voyager still does not support CSS and I none of those are ever going to support CSS.


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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info
Posted on 30-Dec-2008 19:53:09
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@itix

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I doubt there would be an Amiga developer who would go to develop Flash player to the Amiga. Sputnik and OWB are based on open source projects and without it there would be no CSS capable Amiga browser. AWeb still does not support CSS, Ibrowse still does not support CSS, Voyager still does not support CSS and I none of those are ever going to support CSS.


Your point exactly? I don't particularly care if a browser is open-source or not. Likewise with flash. Before Adobe released the documentation, open-source projects had to reverse engineer flash scripts, resulting in slower progress and poor support. Now that they have the documentation, making it fully standards compliant is much easier. Porting Gnash or swfdec is a possibility (although swfdec's audio relies on GLIB).

Note that the swfplayer that we do have is also based on an open-source package.

Hans

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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info
Posted on 31-Dec-2008 10:55:00
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With cross-reference to this thread:

Everyone knew Marcins stance on AmigaOS 4.0 before
the bounty was started. And yet you all "fell" for it and
cheered him?!

You are not the ones who should complain, and blame
his stance towards AmigaOS 4.0.

Yet, Marcin agreed to do it, didn't he? I'm sure he
wouldn't agree to a bounty if he had no intentions
to fulfill it.

Well, if you guys can't give him a few more months..
It's your loss, and yours alone.

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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info
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@ironfist

I'm sure that Marcin had the intention to port it to OS4, but just lacked the interest to actually get round to doing it. He had a deadline and missed it by over a year, so it makes perfect sense that it is cancelled.

Hans


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@ironfist
looking at your profile seeing 11 abuse reports prevented me from answering your post

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