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Announcement   Announcement : AmigaOS 4.1 for Pegasos II
   posted by Rogue on 31-Jan-2009 17:30:08 (48362 reads)
Antwerp, Belgium - January 31, 2009.

Hyperion Entertainment is pleased to announce the immediate availability of AmigaOS 4.1 for the Pegasos II PowerPC platform.


AmigaOS 4.1 for the Pegasos II is functionally identical to the AmigaOne version.

Worldwide distribution to dealers and production are handled by ACube Systems S.r.l. .

Interested customers are invited to contact their local Amiga dealer to place their order.
    

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ikir 
Re: AmigaOS 4.1 for Pegasos II
Posted on 2-Feb-2009 0:20:34
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I read in forums about sam Problems


This should explain why a forum title is important. SAM boards have no problems and there are few software related ones which hopefully will be fixed. DMA is fine, my DVi monitor looks oustanding on my SAM too.


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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 for Pegasos II
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There once was an OS called 4,
ported to rare boards galore.
But the lonely mac mini
of which there were plenty,
was left waiting outside on the floor.

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 for Pegasos II
Posted on 2-Feb-2009 3:41:34
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A convergence of Amiga hardware and software. Nice one. Number of potential users just increased by about 100%.

It's surprising MorphOS didn't bring out a version for the A1's (missed opportunity).

Next step has got to be to get a Mac version happening!!! That would really increase the number of potential Amigans dramatically.

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 for Pegasos II
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It's surprising MorphOS didn't bring out a version for the A1's (missed opportunity).

Porting MorphOS to a hardware broken by design is pointless and a waste of time. We will have MacMini port instead.


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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 for Pegasos II
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Poster: Hans Date: 1-Feb-2009 14:33:54 Quote:yep I agree...and the funny part is the reasons NOT to support mac mini seem to apply here for the pegasos II...second hand board, not in development anymore, dead end etc etc etc... I dont think mac mini should be supported, nor do I think pegasos II should be supported...Im no programmer, but It 'sounds' like supporting a platform requires actual work and this would be costing them X amount of dollars of course... Q to the IT experts here - Would projects like this make the cost of SAM higher than it need be? EDIT - I just searched ebay for pegasos and got nothing, zero, zip. geez, if your going to support a dead platform, choosing pegasos over mac mini looks insane from where im sitting... Full developer documentation is available for the Pegasos II, but not the MacMini. Therefore it should take significantly less effort to get it running on the Pegasos II compared to the MacMini. Hans


Fair enough, but if you cant find one for sale it doesnt do users much good.

mac mini would probably stimulate a lot more sales of os4 than this pegasos port. I know Id buy OS4 then for sure...But from the sounds of this thread it looks like the task is too much to ask from hyperion...

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Fair enough, but if you cant find one for sale it doesnt do users much good.


My Pegasos 2 is always for sale if you want one. Buy now price is 750 euros, includes motherboard with G4 CPU module. Not cheap but quality Amiga hardware never was cheap.


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Posted on 2-Feb-2009 9:59:50
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@Krashan

Please stop trolling, AmigaOne isn't perfect but it works quite well for 99,9% of use, maybe is difficult to understand for you that if someone port MorphOS on A1 *that porting* can increase the MorphOS userbase and help to reunify a little our community.


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@Krashan

The day Pegasos II became an Amiga...

Bye,
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@itix

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My Pegasos 2 is always for sale if you want one


Would you like to swap it for an A1/XE.

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SAM boards have no problems


Session with SAM:

COUNSELOR: SAM, do you have a problem?

SAM: No.

COUNSELOR: SAM, what kind of counselling do you seek then? The usual demands we receive differ on its frequency and acuteness. Some mainboards decide to start with periodic counseling sessions after facing a crisis. So they consider the online counseling as a routine that they keep (once or twice a week) during the time when they are solving their problematic situation (like a new revision or a grief process).

SAM: I do not seek counselling.

COUNSELOR: Sometimes you think that you have a problem, perhaps just a little one, but you don’t have anybody to talk about it, perhaps you don’t have the confidence to do it, or perhaps you just feel some shame to talk about it with somebody you know...

SAM: I HAVE NO PROBLEM.

COUNSELOR: I see. But let me point out that if you suffer from pegasophobia, cognitive therapy would benefit you. If your pegasophobia is severe, medication along with cognitive behavioral therapy will help you make tremendous improvements.

SAM: (pauses) Really?

COUNSELOR: Yes. When's the last time you saw someone sweep their problems under the rug making them magically disappear? It is believed that as many as 30 percent of mainboards who visit their engineer or repair emergency unit complaining of chest pains, may actually be experiencing anxiety or panic attack symptoms.

SAM: Ugh.

COUNSELOR: In my years as a psychologist, I have come to believe that most mainboards seeking psychotherapy are unhappy. This is not only due to earlier hurts and traumas, as well as present frustrations and problems, but because they cannot access earlier happy moments often enough.

(buzzle.com/articles/psychotherapy)

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Macs lack the RTAS, and hence require direct chipset support.


I won't say that figuring out hte chipset stuff to get OS4 running on Macs is trivial, I'm sure it's far from that. But for those who want laptops and other things, I believe the problem of designing, testing, manufacturing, and funding a whole new hardware design PowerPC laptop is a larger problem than the software side of the situation. Even Genesi seem to keep delaying or cancelling their PowerPC projects these days, and they and bplan made some pretty good stuff.


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Linux also runs on Furby's... you're not going to propose that as a target, do you?


No, since Furby's don't have the potential to be a convenient platform for everyday computing.

I accept that porting to Macs could be very difficult and potentially not worth the effort. I just don't accept it's impossible.

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I accept that porting to Macs could be very difficult and potentially not worth the effort. I just don't accept it's impossible.


It's not impossible. It's more a question of is the reward worth the effort. It would seem the reward to port OS4.1 to Pegasos was deemed worth the effort. I'd love to see them change their mind about Mac effort as well, as I'd love an "Amiga laptop", and the software effort just has to make more sense than the reward vs effort question for complete new laptop hardware design. And I've been brainstorming on that hardware question for years to try and figure out a sensible alternative to Apples.


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Good day all,

Concerning the MacMini vs. Pegasos II debate, there is one thing that seems to be missing. That is the partnership Hyperion has with Acube. The Pegasos is discontinued, meaning it should not hinder the sales of new SAM440ep/flex/460? machines. In order to keep up sales of existing "new" machines, as well as increase the user base by merging splinter platforms, Hyperion has ported to a discontinued platform. Both Acube and Hyperion win in this situation. If OS4.1 was ported to the MacMini, I believe the partnership with Acube would dissolve as sales of the SAM440 would dry up.

Considering how splintered the community has become since Gateway, I think the decision to port to the now discontinued Pegasos II is a very wise decision. If the Amiga market grows significantly, then a port to other "new" hardware may not hurt Acube. The growth has to come first. Part of that growth "may" come in the form of healing the rifts in the Amiga community (Pegasos/MorphOS vs. AmigaOne/AmigaOS4.x).

Before you read too much into these statements, I would love OS4.1 on a MacMini, or even on cheaper x86 hardware, being that my CPU module on my A1 died.

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How about getting AOS 4.1 running on one of these?

http://us.fixstars.com/products/powerstation/intro.shtml

+1

$1250 is not too bad for a complete quad-core system.


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>Right, like KDE and GNOME competing...

I hope you know that on KDE run gnome programs and on gnome run KDE programs ?

maybe 1998 or so there was problem, but today all work together.

Or tell me, where is the competition that KDE/Gnome run only on PPC CPU and not on X86

>SAM boards have no problems and there are few software related ones

ok, but wy is then not both release OS4.1 and SAM final ?.there was several months time.when OS4 SAM come ?.1 monts 2 months later ?
When there are no known driver problem then OS4.1 is called as stable as Peg2 or aone or i am wrong

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ok, but wy is then not both release OS4.1 and SAM final ?.there was several months time.when OS4 SAM come ?.1 monts 2 months later ?When there are no known driver problem then OS4.1 is called as stable as Peg2 or aone or i am wrong


Because it is wise to release a "beta" version for SAM to external testers so you can improve the product before the "final" version. It also allows people to buy the SAM and use OS4.1 on it before having to wait for the "final" version.

Pegasos2 can be released as final because it is different hardware and CPU than SAM. It is more similar to the AmigaOne than the SAM, has RTAS, AND has been available for development for a long time before SAM.

Don't turn this place into "Linuxworld".
You already have the answers before you ask your questions, so it would be better to read before you write.

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i think its great that they added value to peoples pegasos motherboards.
i never had an pegasos, wanted to buy an amiga one back in the day, missed out, almost bought an amiga one 2 years ago missed it also, atleast got myself an 030 a4000 2 2 years ago to add upp with my a1200, anyhow i really hope alot of pegasos owners will buy amiga os 4.1 and start to use it now... soon i hope to be able to run it also, cant afford an sam right now but perhaps in 2-3 months i will be able to buy one, if i would have had an pegasos i sure would have bought 4.1 for it...

sometimes you cant just lookforward without looking backwards alittle and take the hands of the stray ones ;) and join up with them again , the more the merrier!!

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Quote:

My Pegasos 2 is always for sale if you want one

Would you like to swap it for an A1/XE.


Thanks but no thanks, I want Mac Mini


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@PhantomInterrogative

You have a valid point, but it's been about three years since Apple last manufactured a PPC Mac. That means that people must balance buying a much more powerful computer, vs the fact that it's second hand and probably no longer under warranty. I don't think ACube will lose massive sales from competition from eBay Macs, but I do believe it will provide a nice incentive to move to more powerful hardware - right now their motivation to do so is zero.

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