Great !

Congratulations.

Now the mac mini port is coming next...

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says it all.

Yeah, only this isn't GPL and he *does* give the code to anyone who requests it, committing it to the SVN is not quite the same as sharing the code.

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good news for me and my projects!
I wonder if someone can elaborate more on this here?

a) Its fast

NBA> OS4.1 is fast as well.

Well, my point was not to keep running all the MOS adventages,
since I had opportunity to really fell old MOS on BlizzPPC,
but there are MOS freaks around to explain.
Out of the fany things, the people that love Trance, Ambient and Reggae
music will like the names of its components


b) There are a lot of MOS applications and games, some
of them unavail for OS 4.1 (Voyger, Feeble Flies …)

NBA>Voyger works perfectly fin on AmigaOS4.1 is outdated and no one uses it anymore, NBA>OWB is faster better, even Ibrowse2.4 is getting outdated compared to OWB.

I just remembered a few, while Voyager is PPC native on MOS. Since MOS exists
quite longer then OS 4.x, simply there are some software that is PPC native in it.
From more interesting titles, I can remember YAM was for a long time 68k/PPC, etc. etc.

NBA>MorphOS has maybe one or two games that does not run on OS4, it does not make NBA>big difference to me, I have PC to play games.

The point was not to have another MOS vs OS4 war, personally I loved OS4 Emu
and MOS something layer software, that allowed (or tried to allow) everyone to
use everything PPC Amiga under one OS, but since it didnt became really usable,
I would not mind having both on same machine, like Peg II users have.

Another point well taken is that there is no more MOS hardware in production,
so SAM is a good shot.

c) You CAN play Hyperion games

NBA>You can already play Hyperion games on OS4.
NBA>(Freespace,Quake 1/2/3, Heretic II, even the shogo works)

All out of box and without extra settings? Be so kind to make
one short exponation in AW tips how to exactly make them run without crashes?

d) Its also Amiga spirit

NBA>So what, already have a operating system

If you do not understand it, nobody is asking you to leave
the OS 4.1. Since you are that bitchy, with current OS 4 situation,
MOS is even more legal

e) No, it would not kill OS 4.1

NBA>No it would not kill AmigaOS4.1 or 4.2.

OS 4.2? I suppose you know something that rest of the Universe (Amiverse?)
is not aware of.

At least we agree on something .

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not so much... while it's highly exagerated. But MorphOS is now so much ahead of any other AmigaOS.... just by features and supported stuff.

It's way ahead. So far ahead you can't even by hardware to run it!


Not trying to troll, but it's kinda weird going to the MorphOS website.

I mean, the website is gorgeous, the screen shots look amazing, the specs are awesome.... but as a new user that comes across it and wants to buy it and try it there just is simply no way for someone to actually do that. If they contact support on the website and ask about what hardware to buy so they can try MorphOS, what does support say? Check eBay for some dusty old hardware?


MorphOS looks amazing, but they need hardware bad.

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@NutsAboutAmiga: it's not about having the bigger one... It's just about being lucid: MorphOS is ahead of any other Amiga-like OS on almost every aspect. You'll have to live with it ;)

- It has more software (and more important: more *polished* software: see different ports, blender, python,...).
- it is better compatible (runs anything, from 68k to PUP, WOS, W3D)
- it is faster
- it has a better hardware support (way better USB,...)
- it is more modern (new desktop: ambient, gpu accelerated, and truely multitasking, no need to run a patch to auto update window contents ;), new tabbed based MUI shell, new central preferences window, screenbar tools,... )
- it is quite beautiful, out of the box, thanks to MUI (I am sorry, but Reaction comes nowhere near MUI)

There's really no need to argue.

That being said, you may still prefer OS4. But saying you do so because it is better, well.. isn't really true :)

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MorphOS looks amazing, but they need hardware bad.

That's true.

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Isn't it interesting that an OS update release _always_ ends up in people comparing their OSes? Bringing up lists of features that are particularly more advanced in OS A while they are so blatantly missing in OS B?

Reds or Blues, c'mon, give us a break from childish ideology fights, we've really had enough of that.

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oster: pixie Date: 7-Aug-2009 0:57:34 @hondo: Quote: It's funny but I really can't see what MorphOS news are doing here....feels kinda foreign to me......maybe it's just me All this time trough and you still don't got it?

oooh we get it... morphos guys are so desperate, becouse no one bother to go to the morphos site to read the news about their morphos2.3 update, so they must post at aw.net front page. that is what this is all about isnt it?.. you know that news like this should be posted in "Alt Amiga OS" at the aw.net forum not on the front page, so stop acting dumb. 99% of the people that read the news at aw.net have no interest in morphos and do not care about morphos, this is well known at the morphos camp... you see no one at aw.net post anything amigaos4.0 news at the mophos site front page... anything amiga classic or aos4.0 have its own place in the morphos site forum, thats why... this is how it should be done on aw.net also, when it comes to morphos news. but instead these morphos lovers comes here and act like they own the place and when someone say anything against them, then they showel the blue&red war up in our faces as an excuse and give us all the blame.. even when that war have ended years ago, its patethic.... no one is againt your morphos posting but its unnecessary to post any morphos news on the aw.net front page, the usage of the forum should be more than enough for this.

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Is your post for real?


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you know that news like this should be posted in "Alt Amiga OS" at the aw.net forum not on the front page

Since it is a new doesn't belong to the forum now does it?

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99% of the people that read the news at aw.net have no interest in morphos and do not care about morphos

I would think that 100% of aw.net user would have interest in Amiga related content, don't you?

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... you see no one at aw.net post anything amigaos4.0 news at the mophos site front page.

You should know that because MorphOS is part of Amiga world in no way it means that AmigaOS4 has to be in any way connected to MorphOS world.

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this is how it should be done on aw.net also, when it comes to morphos news. but instead these morphos lovers comes here and act like they own the place and when someone say anything against them, then they showel the blue&red war up in our faces as an excuse and give us all the blame.. even when that war have ended years ago, its patethic....

You know what is pathetic? Is posting in a thread which one does not have a shred of interest in it, still people keeps doing that all the time, because living and let live isn't on the dictionary of some. Sometime ago there was the fear that with Alt forums in the frontpage it would suddenly lose its focus, guess what it hasn't. In a natural fashion they appear as disappear as public interest keeps them popping up, and amongst many since the main focus isn't all that geared alternatives, yet they still have their own space.

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@Fab

Ok, can you upload it somewhere, for example on Aminet ?

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you know that news like this should be posted in "Alt Amiga OS" at the aw.net forum not on the front page, so stop acting dumb. 99% of the people that read the news at aw.net have no interest in morphos and do not care about morphos, this is well known at the morphos camp... you see no one at aw.net post anything amigaos4.0 news at the mophos site front page... anything amiga classic or aos4.0 have its own place in the morphos site forum, thats why... this is how it should be done on aw.net also, when it comes to morphos news.

Hey, at least I find MorphOS news interesting here at AWN

But really, dont you have problem when AROS news are posted here? And I dont think it was bad learn about other operating systems. I read OS4 news with great interest to see what is going on there even though I dont have one.

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If you don't have OS4.x you do not deserve any news about it!
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Some time ago I thought about a new website with something like "amigaandamigarelatedworld.net"...

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@Leo: The problem is, that you don´t know AmigaOS4.1 very well. Most of your points are simply untrue.

Just one example: You say, that MOS is better, because it has a GPU-accelerated GUI (Know what: AmigaOS4,1 has this, too!)

Or Python: Python is part of AmigaOS4.1 and well polished (ported by H.J. Frieden)., Blender is on the way (since OpenGL-support in AmigaOS4.1 has become better).

And I don´t think, that there are really much more programs for MOS (have you counted them?). At least for me, there is no important software, which is only available for MOS. And there is some (for me) important software, which is only available for AmigaOS4: AmiCygnix and AudioEvolution for example.

And you list differences as advantages. For example:

"new central preferences window,"

I prefer the good old preferences (like most things in life a matter of individual taste).

And I really like Amidock (which is another difference, for example).

...

Your should really learn more about AmigaOS4,1 and MOS, before you try to compare them.

MOS is in some areas better, in some not. (For example 3D-support in MOS is really better at the moment.). I wouldn´t say, that one of these two OSes is better, they are just different.

BTW: Congratulations to the MOS-team and all MOS-users! Every progress in Amiga-world is good

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Yeah ! Good to have new morphos update !

@Fab
Fixing of xpkmaster bug which mean in release notes, it's a bug about we talk ? (some null-space or kind problems, when you try to unpack it from the icons) ?

Are the copy+paste problem gone with new nlist, etc ?

Did the warp3d drivers updated ? (i mean fix for the bug about we talk with henes on aros channel? )

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Its always nice to see an update to an next generation Amiga operating system. It dose not matter if thats OS4, AROS or even MorphOS they are all nice and targeted us former Commodore Amiga users.

I have a sam440ep myself and a Classic Amiga with a PPC card in it and I have enjoyed using both OS4 and MorphOS, in the past on my classic, they are both good and I don't have any desire to select one as better than the other.

I purchased a sam440ep and OS4 and am very happy with it but I would still purchase MorphOS for it as well if I could, not because its better but because I enjoy using amiga like systems and having another OS to play with on my silent mini-itx PPC board would be fun.

I have also had a good play with AROS under vmware and virtualbox and I like that as well and I look forward to the sam440 port being more complete so OI can use that on my sam440 as well.

For me the Amiga has always been about making computing fun and all three of the next generation Amiga operating systems all achieve that, I just wish everyone else could take a step back and have a look at how fare all 3 have come since Commodore died and then get on with enjoying the excellent new Amiga systems me have now.

Choice is always good and I wish some people in the Amiga community would spend more time saying thanks to all the developers of the next generation OS and less time picking fights with each other.

So thanks for the MorphOS update and maybe one day I will be able to use it on my sam440 or another mini-itx board that can run all three next generation operating systems.

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Isn't it interesting that an OS update release _always_ ends up in people comparing their OSes? Bringing up lists of features that are particularly more advanced in OS A while they are so blatantly missing in OS B? Reds or Blues, c'mon, give us a break from childish ideology fights, we've really had enough of that.

You cannot expect more from LEO

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Just one example: You say, that MOS is better, because it has a GPU-accelerated GUI (Know what: AmigaOS4,1 has this, too!)

Stop reading between lines. I said "GPU-accelerated desktop", not GUI. Ambient that is.

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Plus I know it, for using it. And I may compare it, since I have both running on the very same board (Pegasos2).

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@Leo:
>Stop reading between lines. I said "GPU- accelerated desktop", not GUI. Ambient that is.

Explain me the big difference. AmigaOS4.1-Workbench is GPU-accelerated, too. It seems that you only copy/paste from the MOS-website.

>Plus I know it, for using it.

Obviously (see my last post) not good enough (at least AmigaOS4.1).

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Fixing of xpkmaster bug which mean in release notes, it's a bug about we talk ? (some null-space or kind problems, when you try to unpack it from the icons) ?

Unlikely. And btw, i created an archive with spaces in filenames, and it's handled just fine. So the issue must be more subtle than that.

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Are the copy+paste problem gone with new nlist, etc ?

There are many problems in nlist (by design...), but not copy/paste issue, AFAIK. The issue you refer to is some betterstring.mcc breakage. So it's up to damato to fix it.

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Did the warp3d drivers updated ? (i mean fix for the bug about we talk with henes on aros channel? )

I don't think so.