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Software News   Software News : Icaros desktop 1.1.4 has been released, with a new format!
   posted by paolone on 28-Aug-2009 17:46:55 (8152 reads)
The popular AROS distribution Icaros Desktop has reached version 1.1.4 and is now available for download. Along with the classic update CD for Icaros users, Icaros Desktop LIGHT is a brand new version that fits is a 700 MB CD-R.

Read more...


The new version includes recent MESA and SDL libraries, updated TextEditor Zune class, current SabreMSN 0.58, and fresh AROS libraries and system files.

For more informations and downloads, please visit the Icaros Desktop website.
    

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Re: Icaros desktop 1.1.4 has been released, with a new forma
Posted on 29-Aug-2009 2:15:54
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@hammer

I have that problem now and then. Usually I just "assign cd0: dismount" before I run the updater. Might be the same issue might not be.


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@paolone

Well done, keep up the good work!

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Re: Icaros desktop 1.1.4 has been released, with a new forma
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@Tomppeli

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It would be nice if you could add links to the older (small) updates into that very first page.


Good suggestion. ID site pages are organized that way: once a new release is out, only updates to THAT release are listed in the same page. For instance, to look for updates to version 1.1.2, you should have looked for the 1.1.2 download page, and there you would have found the 1.1.3 update. But now that you let me think about it, it was just plain silly: when a new release is out, the download pointer changes to the newest release page, so people with a former version wouldn't ever find the update disc.

I had already noticed people having problems finding what they were looking for, but thanks to this discussion I now have a better idea. Thank you.

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Posted on 29-Aug-2009 13:20:36
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Yes, congratulations on continuous and successfull releases.

However I must agree with the point, that the download link pages are way to confusing.
It needs a lot of improvement, because as it stands release names, dates, version, md5dums, release notes, and packaged differences, all of the extra bells and whistles I would be looking for in a download section are almost non-existent.


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However I must agree with the point, that the download link pages are way to confusing. It needs a lot of improvement, because as it stands release names, dates, version, md5dums, release notes, and packaged differences, all of the extra bells and whistles I would be looking for in a download section are almost non-existent.


...and you won't find them as long as Icaros Desktop will be a "single man effort with nice help from some friends but almost NO revenue" like it currently is. Things might change when more people will press that "donate" button.

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there is the ability to pay broadband connections like dial-ups, counting the connection time or traffic. For spare downloads they can be a good solution. But I always considered cheaper a monthly fee for a flat rate. And now I pay for broadband connection much less than I did when I used dial ups.


I don't want to participate in this silly debate but i have more than one friend who doesn't have it not due to cost reasons but simply because adsl/other isn't offered in their town. We heard various times from other people in this site from other countries who are in the same situation, so broadband connectivity isn't granted to everyone.

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The issue is that I don't know exactly how to filter a directory in order to keep ONLY updated files. What I'd need, is a linux shell script which compares two directory trees and deletes from the new one everything that perfectly matches the older one. The day I'll get it, just expect much littler update files!


You don't need a special script to do this, you can use a diff/sync tool, they're freely available for any platform, including AOS4. Or you can try to put the whole directory tree of the distribution under some kind of Revision Control, these too are freely available.

Last edited by Nibunnoichi on 29-Aug-2009 at 02:56 PM.


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It's idiotic people have to download 400 MB file to update a couple of files from 112 to 114 (f.ex.) ! Think about dialup users


Do we care about people still using dialups mmmm thats BIG NO so get a broadband if not than get of the net.

Aros is great & it will be more better soon or later.


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Relax, AROS is good (but OS4.1 is better)


OS4 looks good but Aros x86 Faster than any amiga..


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>>OS4 looks good but Aros x86 Faster than any amiga..


Maybe because it isn't an Amiga?!

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Good Work!

Icaros is fantastic!!!


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>Maybe because it isn't an Amiga?!

Or maybe because it runs on x86 ?!?!

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I have that problem now and then. Usually I just "assign cd0: dismount" before I run the updater. Might be the same issue might not be.

Thanks, my AOS KB is a bit rusty.


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>>>>OS4 looks good but Aros x86 Faster than any amiga..


>>Maybe because it isn't an Amiga?!


So to be an "Amiga" it has to be slow? Nice definition.

Sigh... I remember when Amiga was the definition of fast...


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Maybe because it isn't an Amiga?!

Perhaps because it runs in better hardware?


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>>So to be an "Amiga" it has to be slow? Nice definition.

No I never said that. The Amiga has never been the fastest machine out there.

To me Amiga is all the machines Commodore produced and the SAM with OS4.1 on it.


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>>Perhaps because it runs in better hardware?




Is a pc better than the SAM? Faster maybe but better?

When I'll see Amiga OS4.x/5.X running natively on pc hardware then that, TO ME, will also be an Amiga.

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Is a pc better than the SAM? Faster maybe but better?

Is it not? So SAM excels all the PC motherboards out there?

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When I'll see Amiga OS4.x/5.X running natively on pc hardware then that, TO ME, will also be an Amiga.

It has all to do with the badge then...


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>>So SAM excels all the PC motherboards out there?

Again, nobody is saying that the SAM is better than the pc motherboards. At the moment to run OS4.1 (which is the Amiga OS) you need a SAM (or Pegasos2), this is enough for me to make the SAM an Amiga.


>>It has all to do with the badge then...


Not necessarily. I would prefer Amiga OS evolving in a modern fully functional OS (with the Amiga name) which allows me to do the same things as other Operating Systems but in an elegant, strimlined Amiga way.

Honestly to that I will add that it will also need software to run otherwise I can't see the point of having an OS (like so many out there) which can't do what Win XP, Vista, Mac OS X can and ALSO has no software to enjoy.

It reminds me of those threads asking for a laptop so you can run an obscure OS on...what is the point? Get Linux, Vista, Win7, Mac OSX, why struggle to even run a browser?

Just my two cents


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Why do you care? You don't even use Aros.Btw. How many % use dial-up nowdays ? It's idiotic in 2009 to use dial up.


I don't have AROS either and do not care anything about it.

However, what I do care about is the pompous self gratifying attitude of those LUCKY enough to have fast connections that assume everyone else can also download many MB files for the sake of replacing a few others. The latest OS4 SDK is as bad they released an 85MB file rather than an update of the just the few needing replacing. I cannot justify downloading such lareg files, it would take ages.

In the UK all our telcommunications are controlled by a monopoly called BT and unless you live on top of one of their exchanges you cannot get more than 512kB even with broadband.

So cut out this self righteous "everybody should have a fast connection" attitude. I would glady pay more than I do for a decent connection speed but thanks to BT I do not have an option. Also thanks to BT and the way they run ISPs in the UK, I end up paying MORE for my slow connection than those lucky enough to be able to get faster ones. The situation stinks.

So shut up about your fast connection, you are priviledged to be able to get one.

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I'm glad Aros is just Aros. I don't give a rats a** if it has the name or not.
What i need is an Amiga like environment that runs on state-of-the-art hardware.
Aros gives me just that, even if Aros is just in the beginning and has a lot to
explore before being full blown.

So thanks for Icaros giving me what I want.

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