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Announcement   Announcement : Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress AmigaOS 4.1 port of Firefox
   posted by Cyborg on 29-Sep-2009 16:53:08 (62274 reads)
Project Timberwolf


Finally the port of one of the most wanted software for
AmigaOS 4.1 has been tackled! The well known AmigaOS developers
Hans-Joerg Frieden and Thomas Frieden work already since
quite some time on a fully AmigaOS native port of Mozillas'
Firefox webbrowser!


Because of the unrealistic terms and conditions of the AmiZilla
bounty, it was decided to start a new bounty only for AmigaOS 4.1
and beyond. Thus this bounty is in no way related to AmiZilla.

Timberwolf is the project name of the AmigaOS port of the Firefox web
browser (for legal reasons it cannot be called Firefox). Firefox is an
award-winning open source web browser and is the de-facto-standard
browser across a wide variety of operating system, taking second place
in popularity after Microsoft' s Internet Explorer. Its features include
tabbed browsing, support for HTML 5, ECMAScript 3.1, and CSS 3,
extensibility through addons, and a lot more. In short, Firefox is the
most complete open source browser to date.

Read all about it on AmigaBounty.net Project: TIMBERWOLF
    

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Tomppeli 
Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
Posted on 29-Sep-2009 20:20:39
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@Birbo

And I've had enough with all silency and surprises. I want more announcements.


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It's just a pet project Thom and me have been doing in our spare time

You actually have spare time?

Excellent news anyway, donation made.

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Quote:

Timberwolf is the project name of the AmigaOS port of the Firefox web browser (for legal reasons it cannot be called Firefox).

What are these legal reasons ?
I'm curious...


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You actually have spare time?


Hyperions secret project is obviously a cloning system for the Frieden Quads (or is that Octuplets by now...)


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Re: Project: TIMBERWOLF - Bounty for already in progress Ami
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Quote:

Quote:

Timberwolf is the project name of the AmigaOS port of the Firefox web browser (for legal reasons it cannot be called Firefox).


What are these legal reasons ?
I'm curious...


Similar to the ones that make Debain call their version IceWeasel probably.


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/me now remembers a post on an aw.net thread where Rogue said that he was "tempted to port Firefox himself" :)

BTW now I can also understand why OWB hasn't been updated since last June, makes sense with this ongoing port.

Good work Hans-Joerg and Thomas!

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WOW - this is great news !

I really appreciate the effort guys.

@all
The only problems I have with Firefox is that some plugins use extensive javascript/RSS processing that temporarily freeze main Firefox page loading/interaction.

I heard installing fresh Firefox is recommended rather than updating.

But seriously, this is very exciting and pleasing news.

Where did the name "Timberwolf" come from ?

Someone with a wood and wolf fetish ?

(ducks)


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Yay,

Three cheers, er, beers to the Bothers. Nice work! And the very ambitious project is yet to come. Awsome.

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Posted on 29-Sep-2009 20:45:01
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Could the Amizilla bounty be switched to this one?
It's a big bounty, and it was made for Firefox... so!


It's what I was thinking, AmiZilla bounty should be splitted in case of porting on one or more Amiga flavour...

Good Work brothers

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@asymetrix,

I still think JAVA may be the ambitious one to come.

Timber starts a fire and a wolf is bigger and more ambitious than a Fox.

Chris

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What are these legal reasons ?

Probably same reason why it is called iceweasel under debian.

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some interesting screenshot of Mozilla

Timberwolf screenshot gui:


This is Shiretoko


and this Firefox "shiretoko codename"


very interesting..


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@Seiya

In case you missed: http://www.amigabounty.net/?function=viewfiles&projectid=44


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I'm sorry - what are these screenshots about? Are you kiddin'?

Please make some screenshots of Acid Browser test showing a good result. This is what matters.


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Posted on 29-Sep-2009 21:41:14
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To be clear Seiya think that this is a fake news


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@Birbo
Come on, no one stated the Friedens had a fully working Firefox ready for release?

I will of course post Acid browser test screenshots when Timberwolf is ready for that.
Until then you will have to do with a screenshot showing XULRunner (Firefox engine) ported. And the Firefox GUI (with some errors) native on OS4.1

That is the current state of Timberwolf and there's of course still a long way to go before a finished polished Firefox hits the Amiga. But what you see in the pics I posted is already a major achievement and a big step on the way, whether you like it or not.


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Similar to the ones that make Debian call their version Iceweasel probably.

Well, according to the Debian policy, everything should be opened, and this include graphics,.. as Firefox is a trademark and the Logo isn't free, they decided to rename it...

I think this has nothing to do with the reason why it is renamed for AmigaOS 4... As far as I know, open source and trademark free has never been a goal for Hyperion ;)
On the contrary... Everything is closed, including the hardware which comes with a dongle, but this is another story.

Any more guess about this reason ?


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@Birbo

Relax, these are very early days yet. However, it's a huge step in itself that it actually compiles! Plenty more work to do, yes, but there's already a fair bit of progress. And it's in the hands of two guys who are known for actually releasing quality software So I'd be confident over the next while that this project will bear some fruit.


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Well, Firefox and the logos are indeed trademarks, so maybe the reason is that Firefox only allow the logo/name to be used on officially endorsed ports. I doubt they'd want anyone downloading the source and releasing their own shoddy version of Firefox, tainting the name...

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@Leo

The reason? Well, to put ants in your pants for starters?

The real reason is maybe to make OS4.x a more attractive choice than MorphOS or AROS?!
Is this not a given?

I would have made the same decision if I had the chance. Especially after putting in so many hours of work basically for free and being in their situation (developing OS4)..

EDIT: Btw great work Friedens! Faster hardware soon and I'm back owning OS4

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