@Swoop

Information about the different versions of future AmigaOS 4.x are listed in a topic referred to the AmiWest 2009 Pianata. That topic, you will find the information..

In 4.2 things like SMP-support, better USB 2.0 support (perhaps even starting to intergrate USB 3.x-support), a complete change in the overall workbench environment i guess, Java-support, better printer support and a brand new graphic subsystem, which could possible be OpenGL allowing the GPU to do more of the hard work than the main CPU...

I guess there are talks about a brand new Amiga, possible with multi cores in the horizon, so we are talking really BIG stuff here!

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@Hammer,

A NATAMI with a PPC daughterboard maybe?

@Rigo

I am afraid to say that i have not made any wild suspections or anything. I am simply referring to the truth, and the specifications came from the TS that made the topic about what was revealed at the AmiWest 2009 Pianata show. The news came from the people behind Hyperion Entertainment themselves, and a beta tester for them, not me..

So i believe that you are way out with your arguments, which proves i am quite true to what i have said. No lie there...

You better check the edvidences again before suspecting people like me for lying or being wrong. I have been a long veteran to the Amiga scene since its' birth back in 1985, so i know stuff and i ALWAYS watch what happens to the Amiga. ALWAYS!

Don't insult me again like this. Be mindfull about what you do and check the facts BEFORE you make suspections like that..

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@All

It has nothing to do weither or not one is good or bad at revealing things..

AmigaOne might continue to be supported, but i seriously doubt there will be ANY new AmigaOnes. There will be other new Amiga hardwares, yes, but AmigaOne? No...

And where is actually Eyetech, the company behind the AmigaOne? They have been out of the Amiga market for quite some time...

Would you say that i am actually wrong? I guess not. AmigaOne will continue to be supported yes, but that doesn't mean there will be any more AmigaOnes..

There will be other new Amiga hardwares, that's for sure...

The facts can't be any clearer than this one. Now we are getting it right..

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so i know stuff and i ALWAYS watch what happens to the Amiga.

Then you'll know how close to the real action Rigo is, and that he knows far, far more than 99.99% of other Amigans...

Perhaps you could start to add references/sources for your rather more "imaginative" posts - that would help the rest of us sort out what is fact and what is fanciful imagination or hope.

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@Helgis
Rigo is an AmigaOS4 developer, I think it's safe to assume Rigo knows a bit more about AmigaOS4 and the future developments of the Amiga than you do. At least I hope so

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AmigaOne might continue to be supported, but i seriously doubt there will be ANY new AmigaOnes. There will be other new Amiga hardwares, yes, but AmigaOne? No...

I think AmigaOne was a name licensed for Eyetech and since Eyetech is no longer with us it should be pretty safe to assume there will be no more AmigaOne's. The last A1 was produced a long time ago and you telling us there will be no more of them is pretty much stating the obvious.

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Would you say that i am actually wrong? I guess not. AmigaOne will continue to be supported yes, but that doesn't mean there will be any more AmigaOnes..

You wrote "That hardware is now a thing of the past and that support might likely be fased out." My best GUESS is that AmigaOne's will be supported for quite some time in the future.


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There will be other new Amiga hardwares, that's for sure...

No...

There will be AmigaOS compatible machines but not necessarily new Amiga's!

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(perhaps even starting to intergrate USB 3.x-support)

This has never been suggested by anyone related to Hyperion, AFAIK, so that is pure speculation. (And frankly, I don't care about USB 3 until it is fairly cheap & common.)

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@HKvalhe

Why are you so c*cky? Rigo is part of the OS4 team so I suspect he knows a h*ll of alot
more about future plans/releases than you. For a guy that follows EVERYTHING about Amiga
I'm really surpriced that you didn't know this..

So chill out and don't day dream so much about the future of Amiga.. Or at least don't
put the most outrageous stuff on "print".

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@PulsatingQuasar

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It should have never been produced for the BlizzardPPC and CyberstormPPC in the first place. There are far less of those then secondhand mini Macs. They are slow and tagged to some other slow and unstable hardware.

So...you don't think Hyperion should have met the terms of the contract and would have been better off if they failed to complete that? ok..

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perhaps even starting to intergrate USB 3.x-support

Where did anyone say anything about USB 3?

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a complete change in the overall workbench environment i guess

Changing the startup/boot handling of things is a complete change to the overall environment?

OpenGL is for graphics. There's other APIs that allow streaming and other more general computation by the GPU chip instead of the main CPU, OpenGL does not do that. I think they've been quite clear in past discussions that OpenGL is planned in the form of a Mesa port.

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PulsatingQuasar: In my opion it's all pointless. It should have never been produced for the BlizzardPPC and CyberstormPPC in the first place. There are far less of those then secondhand mini Macs. They are slow and tagged to some other slow and unstable hardware.

I'm with HammerD on this one. I'd like to see the classic version of OS4 benefit from more recent developments. At least, as many of them as possible. I would be in favour of OS4.1 for classic machines.

That is not to say that I see classic machines as the future, but a lot of people like to keep their classics going - perhaps for sentimental reasons if nothing else. Most people who hang on to their classic machines do so in addition to support for the newer stuff, I think.

I wouldn't want classic OS4 development to get in the way of the newer stuff but certainly if it's possible, and not too much trouble, I don't see the harm in putting improvements into the classic version of OS4. I'd be happy with that personally!

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That is not to say that I see classic machines as the future, but a lot of people like to keep their classics going - perhaps for sentimental reasons if nothing else. Most people who hang on to their classic machines do so in addition to support for the newer stuff, I think.

619 people saw fit to vote in an AW poll on this topic.
I strongly doubt even Next Generation hardware would get so much attention in a poll...
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Yes! 57 % (353) No! 28 % (178) Maybe! 14 % (88) Total Votes: 619 Total Voters: 619

So...you are far from alone in your opinion.

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Huh.. I disappear for ages.. hell, I'm nearly 30 and I figured women, beer and cars were more interesting..

I got bored of all this and tired of it.. I log in for the first time in AGES and find the mess has been cleaned up??

I've not got time to read all the thread (I've got into Ironman so my life is taken up with training and work) - but whats the beef?? Whats going down?

Rob

@number6

They and just about everybody else would have been better off not even putting it in the contract. Even back then Amiga hardware was old.

And even then it was clear that because of cost of hardware components the Amiga would never, ever, ever again have custom chips.

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I am not sure if there will be a new UBoot for AmigaOne. That hardware is now a thing of the past and that support might likely be Fased out.

I have not yet seen the SAM that will PHase out my 1.26GHZ Amiga One yet.

I do hope the new "amazingly going to blow our minds apart" Hyperion project will make my A1 obsolete but it is way from there yet, as I speak (type) !

A new UBOOT for my A1 would not go amiss

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Huh.. I disappear for ages.. hell, I'm nearly 30 and I figured women, beer and cars were more interesting..

You will grow up one day you youngster.

Beer is actually VERY interesing indeed. As much as an Amiga. No - maybe even a bit more as long as it is a real ale and not some crappy lager.

As you get older women are still interesting but not in a practical way as much. You just tend to be married to them. Not that I would swap the missus for *any* new Amiga BTW. Unless I got a good price of course ;o)

As for cars they get you from A to B and cost a fortune, not interesting in the slightest just a necessity, unless you are a sad Jeremy Clarkson clone. I cannot see how a car can be interesting, other than a drain of money. The bank balance on running a car is "interesting" in a bad way but that is all.

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And where is actually Eyetech, the company behind the AmigaOne? They have been out of the Amiga market for quite some time...

Maybe having to deal with Amiga Inc from day one they knew what they were like long before the rest of us and took the sensible option ?

Every company that AInc dealt with ended up getting sued so do you blame Eyetech for getting out of it while the going was good. Blame AI not Eyetech.

I had nothing but good customer service from Eyetech over the years - unlike a LOT of other Amiga related companies. [edit] This is NOT a critic on Hypoerion BTW just in case *some* may read things that are not there. Hyperion support has NEVER been bad, maybe just a bit neutral which ain't bad.

They DID take a long time getting the A1 out comopared to what the Amiga magazines were saying at the time and OS4 took even longer. The problem was a lot of the false claims AI were putting out at the time, they had ideas but no ability.

Eyetech and Hyperion saved OS4, without either the Amiga would not ahve any future other than emulation.

Kudos gor Hyperion for continuing rather than take the sensible option and give in like Eytech did


Bill.


[edit] Of course I would have expected far superior hardware now than my orignal 800MHz A1 which was meant to be a bridge to the future. Somthing went badly wrong - Amiga Inc I suppose.

Where are the 3GHz Amiga Twos now ?

But if Eyetech had not done the Amiga One I would have left the Amiga scene *long* ago. So do not knock them. They left and maybe a good move if dealing with Bill McExport.

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@ Helgis

I tired to help you, but you seem intent on placing your foot in your mouth.

I love your enthusiasm, but as that old song from the disco era says: Relax, don't do it.

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