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Hardware News   Hardware News : Introducing Sam460ex
   posted by m3x on 2-Apr-2010 19:35:41 (15443 reads)
Bassano del Grappa, Italy - 2 April 2010

ACube Systems is happy to announce the new Sam460ex board. This board will join the Sam family together with the Sam440ep-flex.
Based around the AMCC 460ex SoC, the board offers many modern features like: PCI express slots, SATA2 port, Giga Ethernet, DDR2 RAM.



This is the complete features list:

flex-ATX form factor (21.6 x 17 cm)
8 layers PCB
AMCC 460ex SoC – upto 1.066 Ghz
max 2 GB DDR2 Ram – 200-pin SODIMM up to 533 Mhz
Silicon Motion SM502 embedded MoC (audio/video) max 64Mb Gfx RAM
Audio 5.1 Realtek ALC655 codec
PCI-express 4x lanes slot (16x mechanical connector)
PCI-express 1x lane slot (* check notes below)
PCI slot, 32 bit, 66/33 Mhz, 3.3V
1x SATA2 port (* see notes below)
6x USB2 EHCI/OHCI ports
2x 10/100/1000 Ethernet ports
Lattice XP2 FPGA with 80 I/O pins expansion connector (optional)
UMTS/GSM module (optional requires add-on card)
512 MB NAND Flash (optional)
integrated SD card reader
RTC clock
Serial port, 8-wires
I2C and SPI/I2C buses
passive cooling
U-Boot 2009.08

Notes: the SATA2 port and the PCI-e 1x slot are mutually exclusive, only one of them can be used at a time.

Price: the exact price will be announced when the board is available to the user (due the varying USD / EURO exchange rate) it will be in the range of EUR 600 - 650. The board will NOT replace the Sam440ex-flex board.

More information on:

ACube Website
Sam4x0 website
    

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cv643d 
Re: Introducing Sam460ex
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New hardware is great but IMHO price is still too high. This is supposed to be the "budget system" if/when x-mobo comes out, but to be totally 100% rude in this situation where everyone is jumping with joy 600 euro is a sh*tload of money.

Still the best hardware for OS4 is the Peg2 IMHO, I got mine last year for 180 euro, and for 420 euros, I could ditch guarantee and live on the wild side ,remember "no risc no fun"

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Its still at Revision 0, pre production. so I guess somethings can still change.


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Poster: cv643d Date: 3-Apr-2010 1:11:40 New hardware is great but IMHO price is still too high. This is supposed to be the "budget system" if/when x-mobo comes out, but to be totally 100% rude in this situation where everyone is jumping with joy 600 euro is a sh*tload of money. Still the best hardware for OS4 is the Peg2 IMHO, I got mine last year for 180 euro, and for 420 euros, I could ditch guarantee and live on the wild side ,remember "no risc no fun"



Are you comparing secon hand prices with new ones? that is like comparing not apples with oranges but like comparing apples with extraterrestrial oranges


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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
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it's truely good to see PCIe slots on the SAM.
hope we soon see a SAM 460 flex with a faster CPU gig G4 any1?

hopefully with cards like the HD4850 the sam can accelerate many fun things :)

edit there is no way known that they are not working with hyperion long before they
release the finished product!

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@fransexy

Haha nice one


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hey couldnt the 'Silicon Motion SM502 embedded MoC (audio/video) max 64Mb Gfx RAM' be used in the Sam440 flex PCi-e slot


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Well Done ACube, Partners & Supporters & the Amiga Crew...

Looks like were are really on track, progress has been almost fool proof, each quarter, brings us, a newer and more exciting chapter.

I STRONGLY urge all Amiga' people to join the MiniMig, NatAmi, and SamPPC user base. Please do not wait for some some super duper model if you can avoid it, and also please do not listen to any NAY SAYERs, theire predictions are based on failure and our moto is success.

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@Fransexy

When Pegasos2 was still produced, it cost around 400 euros.

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@Spectre660

Indeed i hate optical drives especially in mini computers and laptop, it would be a dream come true being able to buy OS4.1 direclty on SD

SD considering the future plans is better than any optical drive, even Blueray. No mechanical, so little space on case/motherboard. Read write support, new SD XC are already quite fast and will reach 100MB/s and maximum capacity of 2TB. Ineed Apple is probably planning to remove CD/DVD/Blueray in its products and equipping all of them with a SD, laptop will be more robust, lighter, smaller.


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Ineed Apple is probably planning to remove CD/DVD/Blueray in its products and equipping all of them with a SD, laptop will be more robust, lighter, smaller.


Will they name that Apple IEee?


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Re: Introducing Sam460ex
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Nice Hardware, when the price is good, and OS4 runs on it I think I could need it. Course on the old SAM the 64mb GFX is not enough, now on this Board when you can use PCI-E for GFX and PCI for Soundcard, it would fit my needs perfect. 1GHZ is enough ;)

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Have I understand this corect?
The graphics ship has suport for hardware acceleration?
If so, great news!

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Welll the new great Amiga hardware that we are waiting. Only big problem its price.

Last edited by Templario on 03-Apr-2010 at 10:18 AM.

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@DAX

My statement about gfx card and sata was about a case problem...
I like to get a new card smaller and nicer with a nice case but...
If I've to change/add gfx board and/or sata controller the nice case was gone... :(
Only that...

I'm in doubt on that not in the cheaper way of adding that devices...

@ Templario

I agree with you...
The price wa at least 30% high unfortunately...
I think it must have the same sma440 price at its launch imho...
As every hw around when pass from a version to another...

Last edited by Tuxedo on 03-Apr-2010 at 11:18 AM.


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Tux, its not so simple to add a mega video card into a small mobo into a small case.. all world wide small pc has lways a not so powerful video card. If you want a more powerful one just buy a PCI-E card and fit into a SAM..


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@AfxGroup

you are right...
I only hoped for a 128 mb card not an high-end card...like a Radeon9250 on board(or something similar).
And my doubt was about the impossibility to use a "nice little" case if I've to buy a sata and gfx card...noting more.


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I had an ASUS Ieee with a SD drive. It was so slow I got rid of it. However there would be less disk access on an Amiga. Windows is constantly running the drive for some reason.

Maybe the SAM 460 is a good upgrade path from a micro instead of X1000. It isn't a lot faster, but it can use other video cards. Maybe there isn't that much difference. It looks like if you want a PCI-e video card you'd also have to buy a SATA card. That would inflate the price by $100(?).

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As predicted here


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@thinkchip

It depends on SD drive and SD memory. SD XC reach 16MB/s pretty good imho and in future SD memory should reach 100MB/s. Macs has only these drives now, i think also the same one will have this new standard. naturally if you plug a old SD memory it will run at its max speed, 1,2,4 MB/s.


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@metalmac
You can find more info. about the SM502 at the EyeMotion product page. Also note the screen shot of AmigaOS 4.1 running on the SM502 at the bottom.


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