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Hardware News   Hardware News : First Natami MX boards produced
   posted by Forcie-NatamiTeam on 13-Feb-2011 19:40:58 (18438 reads)
Thomas Hirsch of the Natami Team has just manufactured the first Natami MX boards. This is the board revision that will be sold to the public, provided that the board bringup and hardware tests goes well.

Natami is a clone of the classic Amiga computer and its architecture. It is a 68k-based computer containing the classic Amiga chipset with enhancements and quite a few modern hardware features.


The MX board features:
-Altera FPGA from the Cyclone IV-series, containing the enhanced Amiga chipset "SuperAGA" as well as other system logic, and the brand new 68k CPU design "N68050"
-512 MB DDR2 SDRAM (onboard)
-1x PCI slot, expandable to 3x PCI with a PCI riser
-"SyncZorro" expansion slot, for adding f.e. a CPU card (68060 card will be available as an option for this slot)
-DVI-I port for 31kHz video (one can connect both analog VGA and digital DVI), scandoubling function for legacy modes
-15kHz RGB-output/input expansion slot (for optional 15kHz card)
-Realtek RTL8110 Gigabit Ethernet
-NEC USB2 controller and USB ports
-3,5 inch IDE port
-Internal Compact Flash connector (IDE)
-Kickstart flash memory
-Floppy connector (Amiga and PC drives both usable)
-Amiga serial port (although reduced to 9-pin)
-Amiga parallel port
-2x Amiga joystick/mouse port
-4x Cinch/RCA connectors for stereo sound output and input
-PS/2 keyboard/mouse ports (old bigbox Amiga keyboards are connectable)
-Classic Amiga LED:s along with scandoubler LED

Natami MX pictures:
http://www.natami.net/hardware.htm
Natami MX bringup thread:
http://www.natami.net/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=33366

Please note that not all components are soldered in the pictures above.
    

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Re: First Natami MX boards produced
Posted on 17-Feb-2011 14:24:38
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I don't see the point in a PPC card for Natami. Natami appeals to those that have rejected the move to AOS4/Morph OS/PPC.

If Natami was to have an alternative processor to (N)68K I'd like it to be ARM based with AROS providing the OS.

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Re: First Natami MX boards produced
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You dont see but, someone see so that is option for future.
Possibility is on board to add new processor card coldfire/PPC so we will se what will happend.
Aros is alternative, lets see Aros on this configuration.


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Re: First Natami MX boards produced
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I would like to see an ppc accelerator for this cool machine.


Which PPC chip exactly would all those requesting it want?


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@IanP

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Natami appeals to those that have rejected the move to AOS4/Morph OS/PPC.


It also appeals to those who have AOS4/Morph OS but they probably wouldn't be interested in a PPC card for it unless it happens to be more powerful than what they already have.

There are also those who'd like to run the next generation PPC OS's but feel that an Amiga computer should have the custom chip set.

@AmigaHeretic

Quote:
Which PPC chip exactly would all those requesting it want?


G4 would be the most sensible option. Most parts are significantly cheaper than 68060 parts. I think a 1GHz + board with a good wedge of local RAM and OS4 or MorphOS could come in for around the same price as full 68060 card.

The problem is that you'd probably need at least 400 potential customers to make either an OS4 or MorphOS port worth the investing in.

Natami will be doing well if it manages to sell that many units but only a percentage of those customers would be interested in a PPC option.

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@Rob

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Natami will be doing well if it manages to sell that many units but only a percentage of those customers would be interested in a PPC option.


Not to mention that with so many people focusing on what they already perceive as a high cost, and numbers like 400 additional being mentioned for such an addition even on Natami site, you just compound the former issue.

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Will there be a possibility to get a PowerPC card to work on this that might support AOS 4.1?


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Please no PPC-Card.

Use the time for developing a better 68K Core.

For me Natami is about going back to the place where Amiga systems did a branch into the wrong direction, and going into the right direction again.

PPC is as dead as 68K anyway on Desktop Systems anyway, so whats the use?

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@ steril606

PA Semi PPC processor is also discontinued.
Should A-eon cancel X1000?
PPC give opotunity of power for peripherials and software upgrades.


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Seems there will be no PPC expansion now, but board has at least PCI slot.
So its possible in the future (PPC PCI cards do exist).

I am intersted what is the form factor of the board?


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I am intersted what is the form factor of the board?


The Natami MX board complies with the Mini-ITX format, which is 170*170 mm.
However, it is actually a bit smaller (170*140 mm), but can still be mounted in cases meant for Mini-ITX. And other, more Amiga-related cases :)

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