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News   News : IContain announces Amiga branded TVs, cell phones and computers
   posted by cgutjahr on 24-Feb-2011 19:01:52 (34127 reads)
A company called IContain is about to offer various Amiga branded devices.

From amiganews.de
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IContain announces Amiga branded TVs, cell phones and computers When a certain Todd Kleperis contacted the Aminet team two days ago to "discuss your library of Amiga titles" and ask for "guidance as to how to work with the existing fan base", the initial reaction over over at Aminet was confusion.






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LOL, what about doing a microwave oven or vacuum cleaner with the Amiga name?

We already had the microwave idea:



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+1

...sadly it wasn't available publically AFAIK..


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so now people can say. my new device is a real amiga :p

this all feels like a circus or luna parc amigainc.

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@Zylesea

If that had been available to buy with a Video Toaster installed, I would have bought it just so I could tell people I owned an "Amiga Toaster Oven"

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Nothing to be confused about here - it seems that CUSA's license wasn't exactly exclusive.

"Amiga has continued to work on bringing new products with new partners, and we are pleased to be working with IContain providing new hardware and software solutions that will benefit everyone." adds Amiga CEO Bill McEwen.

Quoting from this article from rtohq. Looks like this Todd Kleperis is using the Amiga's history of innovation to leverage his 'rent-to-own' sales and distribution model. Bill must have decided he can make enough cash to keep himself comfortable from simply licensing out the name.

Assuming of course that this isn't another scam.

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Isn't it a bit early to stage an april-fools joke?


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Isn't it a bit early to stage an april-fools joke?


The company seems to be legit.


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We were told that the licensing deal was "cut just recently by the executor of an estate",


Since when is Amiga Inc. or Bill McEwen an estate?


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Who needs the onion news network to make up fake news, when you've got stuff like this?

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Quoting from this article from rtohq. Looks like this Todd Kleperis is using the Amiga's history of innovation to leverage his 'rent-to-own' sales and distribution model. Bill must have decided he can make enough cash to keep himself comfortable from simply licensing out the name.


The only innovation that I can find is their ability to remotely disable customer's products when they can't keep up with their payments. That's the kind of "innovation" that only business people selling stuff would appreciate. It adds zero value to the product itself. In fact, it would decrease the product's value for me, as I detest the idea that there's a remote disable switch inside with someone else's finger on the trigger button. Mind you, I wouldn't go for the "rent-to-own" thing, anyway.

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What a load of dung


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@number6

I assumed that the 'dealing with an executor of an estate' meant that this would have something to do with the late Pentti Kouri, who bankrolled Amiga Inc in past times.

But regardless of that, the article I linked to quotes Bill, and the Amiga Inc press release regarding CUSA mentions no exclusivity for them outside of the all-in-one keyboards 'niche'.

It could be either real or not, but I will say that a cursory google suggests Todd Kleperis is who and what he claims to be.

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@Hans

I agree with you completely, its not the innovation I would want in anything I own. I was just saying that it looks like Mr Kleperis is using the Amiga's history of innovation to place his products in a narrative of new ideas.

As far as it goes, the remote killswitch does have some legitimate applications for the products and markets Kleperis seems to be targetting, too. Expensive laptop is stolen? Brick it remotely. Also, if some chancer does the rent-to-buy deal and then disappears, well, brick their product too.

Its more for the 'emerging markets', I think. Where they have a desire for these high-tech gadgets but not necessarily the cash in hand to just buy them outright. No different from the hire-purchase televisions etc we used to have in the developed world.

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I assumed that the 'dealing with an executor of an estate' meant that this would have something to do with the late Pentti Kouri, who bankrolled Amiga Inc in past times.


Itec still breathes as well.

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On their weird website - 'Amiga - Protected by iContain'

What on earth?!

Just how many nutters are left in the Amiga world? Each one ego centric loonies that believe that they can somehow 'revive the brand' simply by creating lots of Amiga stickers and putting them on existing products THAT HAVE NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THE AMIGA.

Looking at the site it appears that it is linked to AInc.

That - I think - explains everything. Just how many people are they still peddling this stuff to?

Note that if you actually try and buy any of their PCs you can't - you can only 'request a quote'. Almost as if they are trying to gauge interest as if the stickers haven't even been printed yet...

I wonder how CUSA feel about someone else muscling in on their 'put an Amiga sticker on a PC' turf?


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It's Popcorn-Time (again) ladies and gentlemen...

It would seem this is a deal no controlled by McEwen, I wonder how Cusa feels about it...Yet another company selling generic devices with an Amiga logo... (edit @Sam:we wrote the same thing simultaneously )

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This is getting strangerer and strangerer ..
Somehow Im happy that X1000 is an AmigaONE now and not an Amiga ..

I agree, it is basically becoming an advantage at this point.

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As Amiga Inc. grants licenses to a wide variety of companies, which put the Amiga logo on a wide variety of devices, the Amiga name and logo become more and more meaningless. Although I like the name "Amiga," and wish Hyperion truly owned the exclusive right to the name and logos, perhaps it is time to rename our systems to HyperOS, Hyper X1000, etc. just to avoid the confusion that Amiga Inc. is stirring up.


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Downside:
Out of popcorn, running low on peanuts.....


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AmigaInc just got the idea of branding everything Amiga.

Expect Amiga soaps, Amiga Toasters, Amiga wallets soon.

For now they are doing IT related stuff, but who knows if they become desparate.

Hyperion owns AmigaOS and AmigaOne and this are true Amiga brands of today.

Ignore everything else, as now, as in the future.


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um..... didn't amiga, inc., already grant an 'exclusive worldwide' license to CUSA? or was that just for keyboard-based all-in-ones?


No, it was just the All In One computers, but they seem to broke even that
with A1000-4000 line which is not AIO.

Nevermind, their twisted supporters claimed they owned rights to AW.net, Amiga.org as so on without any papers.

It seems Amiga Inc will be selling names to everyone and anyone but AmigaOS related (such as SAM`s).


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@-Sam- & DAX

Its not as bad as all that. If we're going to have one gang of slightly shady businessmen selling imports from China with Amiga stickers, we might as well have two or three. Or ten.

This isn't necessarily a disadvantage for us AmigaOS users. We can just tell any who stumble upon our community that while there are many different options for PCs with Amiga stickers, they can't offer the full experience.

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