> Don't judge it before you read it, you're too rude.

Don't think so, I wasn't really rude...

> I'm thankfull for everybody who helps me, doesn't matter who he is.

Don't get me wrong, I'm well aware that there are bugs in Warp3D. It's just that certain people are always bringing up things like this. Instead of telling you when they found a bug, they tell you "there is one, you're stupid"

Well, never mind...

BTW, the source code to the engine program is included in the Warp3D developer archive, so you don't really need to hack it to support 16 bit modes, just recompile it

I only browse the headlines at ANN these days, if you click the "Read More" you do so at your own peril!

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The program uses W3D_SRC_ALPHA, W3D_ZERO as blendmode

Come to think of it, if the engine demo really used that blendmode (perfectly possible, it's quite dated), it would still come out transparent on the VIRGE since the only blendmode it supported was src_alpha, 1-src_alpha, and the driver implicitly converted everything to that mode - the alternatives would be to fail right away, which didn't really make any more sense, or to fall back to software rendering (which would almost be worth it on the virge).

I don't know if the engine demo still compiles. After we wrote MiniGL, we had some nicer demos...

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I didn't read it because I never read ANN. If you've been there for some time, you will probably know why...

Normally I stay at amiga-news.de
But I'm looking around for QuarkTex discussions and the ANN discussion seems to be productive for now, so it's OK for me
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I don't know if the engine demo still compiles. After we wrote MiniGL, we had some nicer demos...

I think I got an internal compiler error using StormC4 when trying to compile WarpTest, so I didn't even try Engine.
Which blending modes does the Permedia2 support?
I could include Virge and Permedia modes - in the long run you will end up using QuarkTex to develop your games

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Well, never mind...

Oki, I understand now.
Those things make me feel a bit sad though
Many people take competition to serious.

Some lines in German, I fear, I'd write something wrong in English:
Ich finde, man sollte trotz aller Wiedrigkeiten an sämtliche Kommentare vorbehaltslos herangehen - das sich daraus ergebende Verhalten könnte einem auf lange Sicht einen nicht zu unterschätzenden Sympathiebonus einbringen.
Ich weiß aber auch sehr wohl, daß einem dies manche Leute mehr als schwer machen
Wobei ich jetzt wahrscheinlich alle Sympathie verspielt habe, weil ich wie ein Guru klinge

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Which blending modes does the Permedia2 support?

Normally, only SRC_ALPHA, ONE_MINUS_SRC_ALPHA, but we found a way for limited support for ONE,ONE using some obscure apple blending mode, but it isn't really correct - it only works if the texture/fragment used doesn't have Alpha.

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I think I got an internal compiler error using StormC4 when trying to compile WarpTest

I think we used to compile it with SAS/C and StormC 4 beta (the non-GCC version). We've been using the same binary for ages now.

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in the long run you will end up using QuarkTex to develop your games

Well, we *do* have Voodoo's now

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Ich weiß aber auch sehr wohl, daß einem dies manche Leute mehr als schwer machen

Diese Sache läuft einfach schon zu lange. Ich kriege immer diese "Warp3D hat Bugs" zu hören (welche Software hat keine?), aber keine konkreten Hinweise. Daher bin ich immer skeptisch. Ich fürchte, Sympathien kriege ich keine mehr

> Those things make me feel a bit sad though
> Many people take competition to serious.

It's not about competition. What I find disgusting is the fact that some people always try to make you look bad in public. I never did that. I don't go around complaining about the bugs in cybppc.device, for example.

> Ich finde, man sollte trotz aller Wiedrigkeiten an sämtliche
> Kommentare vorbehaltslos herangehen - das sich daraus
> ergebende Verhalten könnte einem auf lange Sicht einen
> nicht zu unterschätzenden Sympathiebonus einbringen.

Hmm, genau das versuche ich eigentlich immer... Ich würde z.B. nie mit irgendwelchen Schlammschlachten anfange. Das tun wirklich immer nur "die Anderen". Manchmal schlage ich ganz gerne zurück, aber das ist auch alles.

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Well, we *do* have Voodoo's now

But you do not have the Visual Studio Debugger

@Rogue & EntilZha:
Just got the first stupid comment at ANN.
Well, there were always fanatics.

At least you have my sympathies. I remember you from the 3DWorld mailing list and could witness your know how - although I am one of those mad Amiga x86 freaks
I took care of the 3DWorld back then.

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Just got the first stupid comment at ANN.

See what I mean I'm staying away from there, and so my blood pressure stays low.

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although I am one of those mad Amiga x86 freaks

Hehe, well, I don't agree with folks that think that AmigaOS is ready to go to x86 yet. That time will come, but not now.

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I took care of the 3DWorld back then.

Yeah, right... Well, things got really quiet there recently; hopefully this is going to change soo

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Hehe, well, I don't agree with folks that think that AmigaOS is ready to go to x86 yet. That time will come, but not now.

There is only one PPC system a little student like me can afford. And the Gamecube will have a hard time running OS4
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Yeah, right... Well, things got really quiet there recently; hopefully this is going to change soo

3DWorld and PPCWorld were shut down. Don't thing H&P will resurrect them.

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3DWorld and PPCWorld were shut down. Don't thing H&P will resurrect them.

Yes, I was thinking of an OS4-3D-List at amiga.com

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Yes, I was thinking of an OS4-3D-List at amiga.com

Just a forum or a mailing list?

Muß mich gerade mal über unseren Jugendschutz auslassen:
Wollte vorhin Quake2 und Freespace bestellen und mußte beim eingeben der Personummer feststellen, daß mein Perso seit zwei Monaten abgelaufen ist
Die Jugendlichen kopieren eh alles auf dem Schulhof und die Erwachsenen dürfen an den Jugendschutzbestimmungen leiden
Soll sogar schon Razzien gegeben haben, bei denen Peter Lustig CDs beschlagnahmt wurden

Burada hersey var mı? Türkçe?

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I can't get to W3Dwrapper to work. I put the directory alib (containing the file Quarktex.alib) in the winuaedir and copied the warp3d.library to my system:libs

I'm using WinUAE 0.8.27 (tried with an older one too) with AOS3.9 and a Geforce 4 MX440.

When i try to run Engine (or some other program) they just crash :/

Anyone who can help me?

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