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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 8-Jun-2011 16:00:12
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 8-Jun-2011 17:53:33
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| I suspect it will be a lot quicker for OS4 devs to rely on X1000 documentation for an OS4 port, than for Varisys devs to rely on OS4 documentation for an OS4 port. The OS4 devs have ported to a lot of different hardware platforms. Varisys only (?) have experience of porting Linux to their hardware.
I honestly don't even know why this question was even raised.
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 8-Jun-2011 18:24:07
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 8-Jun-2011 18:48:10
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| given that there was no news about os4 on this hw since a year it makes me wonder... |
We demonstrated AmigaOS 4.1 on the X1000 at AmiWest in October. What calendar are you using? 
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 8-Jun-2011 19:52:36
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| Like the 'Secret Projects' drawer on the Workbench screengrab, seems very deliberately left out. Hope there's something of genuine interest in there! Can't see myself upgrading to an X1000 unless some exciting new software developments come along.
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 8-Jun-2011 19:56:41
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 8-Jun-2011 20:07:23
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| Like the 'Secret Projects' drawer on the Workbench screengrab, |
What Workbench screengrab? Maybe I´m little bit tired after my work to see it... |
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 8-Jun-2011 21:56:40
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 8-Jun-2011 22:34:07
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| Looks like 'Server Projects' to me. |
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 8-Jun-2011 22:57:50
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| Looks like 'Server Projects' to me. |
It's definitely 'Secret Projects'. 
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 9-Jun-2011 0:01:14
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 9-Jun-2011 0:27:35
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| Hmm... is there any particular reason why Varisys was not contracted to port OS4? |
Experience with OS4 lies with Hyperion's team? Varisys doesn't have any relevant Amiga experience? Varisys has likely ported Linux to all their other boards, and thus have good experience doing that?
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 9-Jun-2011 2:11:13
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| That grab looks like an old grab from amiwest. Doesnt really show much improvements imho. |
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 9-Jun-2011 7:37:10
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| We demonstrated AmigaOS 4.1 on the X1000 at AmiWest in October. |
Which probably was a single core 32-bit version? Given the delay of the X1000 itself (and thus more time for OS4 development), and the hints given in the OpenGL status blog entry, I guess what everyone would like to know is the status of SMP (and maybe 64-bit as well)... |
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 9-Jun-2011 8:48:28
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 9-Jun-2011 9:25:17
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OS4 developers has to read the hardware documentation.
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Varisys developers has to read the OS4 documentation.
I think its hard to say what is quicker, anyway are Varisys interested in doing the drivers for OS4? |
I think it is very easy to say: Knowing the operating system internals (Hyp) and read some hardware docs and write a driver is MUCH more easy than to know your hardware (Var) but need to learn an operating system and how to write and debug drivers for it.
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 9-Jun-2011 9:34:37
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So is mine. Even for simple things. Some people say you don't need fast hardware for AmigaOS but today that's not true anymore because we make use of other software technology that's slow and needs a hefty CPU.
For example. Reading a PDF. I downloaded a simple B&W manual for a router. OS4 takes ages to render a page. At least a second. Am I using my A1200/030 with APDF? No.
Web browsing. Apart from flash (which may make it better speedwise) simple browsing takes a lot of CPU power now days wih scripts and fancy gfx everywhere. That needs power.
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Very good examples: Web browsing and PDF reading. Also managing and viewing modern digicam pictures is dog slow because of 10+megapixels. Not to mention HD videos... But having flash will most certainly not makes things faster, rather much slower I would think.
I don't share your YAM problem though, but I don't have it set to store every e-mail address either. Although I do store every e-mail since 1996, except spam.
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We do. Those who say we don't aren't using their Amigas for everyday life.
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 9-Jun-2011 9:38:06
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| I think it is very easy to say: Knowing the operating system internals (Hyp) and read some hardware docs and write a driver is MUCH more easy than to know your hardware (Var) but need to learn an operating system and how to write and debug drivers for it. |
Yup, that was what I was trying to say.
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 9-Jun-2011 9:53:58
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| X1000 now miss only the beta test phase and then it will be up for sale.
It was unfortunate that rev.1 had problems leading to a delay, but all in all, we are finally close to have a new Amiga on dealer shelves soon.
Rejoice!
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Re: X1000 Status Update
Posted on 10-Jun-2011 4:12:04
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I take it those screens are seperate grabs and not the two OS running together with one virtualised? That would be cool!
I like the "Secret Projects" sitting in the corner. |
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