Hi there everyone,

Well, things are certinaly looking up for the Amiga community now, it's starting to get very exciting with products coming out and demo's of OS4 etc .....

Chris

The additions of USB2 and Firewire are sure to please a lot of potential purchasers. One of the reasons a lot of people chose the Pegasos board was for its Firewire ports. Now people have the AmigaOne boards in a smaller formfactor with those same capabilities to chose from as well.

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Even when the Firewire-Ports on Pegasos are not yet functional afaik.

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if people bought pegasos only for the firewire then they must be really angry atm... its noT working... :)

i think its more to it than just the damn ports!

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The pre-production pictures were intended to be shown - at this stage - only to the A1 developers and to the A1-users list on AmigaWorld to try to get some useful feedback.

Oops! Well, I think it turned out to be a good "oops" this time. I've even seen some positive comments from people that I didn't expect.

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Finally we hope the final version (which will be as near as possible to the above spec) will be available for sale in the specialist shops (and ultimately in the high street electronic entertainment chains) - with OS4 and some Amiga applications - in 1Q04.

Now that is some good news. It's an estimate anyway!

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Just wondering what ATI chip is used??

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Poster: _PAB_ Date: 20-Sep-2003 19:05:37 @_Steve_: Even when the Firewire-Ports on Pegasos are not yet functional afaik.

I seem to recall reading it was working under Linux, just not under MOS. However, not owning a Pegasos I can't be 100% on that

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Thanks for the clarifications Alan.

In any case, I think this should be a addition to the AmigaOne family.

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I believe it's the 9100 isn't it?

Nah... I would bet on the ATI Mobility for several reasons...

1) Price
2) Power Consumption
3) made to be compact.

but since this is a prototype, who knows what the release version will have.

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Nah... I would bet on the ATI Mobility for several reasons...

I dont think its a mobility for two reasons.

Doesn't look like any of the pictures here:

http://mirror.ati.com/designpartners/media/mobile/

2. looks like there is a 16MB SDRAM modules on the board. It looks very similar to the ones on my ATI 8500 of which there are 4 (64MB)

The production model I think should have at least a 9100 if not the mobility version.

But then its a trade of between price v performance and Eyetech arn't in the position to subsidise these boards unlike console manufacturers that make the money back on game publishing.

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I agree that it doesn't look like a mobility, but I cannot agree that there seems to be memory on the board. There is one large chip shaped like a memory chip, but this is in fact a clock chip (notice the crystal?).

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Personally, I'd prefer a low-cost, low(er) end, low-heat graphics chip: I don't need ridiculous 3D performance to operate a home server/multimedia station through the TV at 800x600. AGP is 2x anyway, so bandwidth would be restrictive for very modern chips. Onboard mpeg decoder would be useful.

I use a radeon 7200 in my AMD box and Voodoo 3 in the A1 and A1200 and these are all fine for every app I use.

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I think that it might be worthwhile producing 2 versions of the board. I understand that would increase costs as production has to be switched between the 2 designs.
ATI Radeon 7000/mobility will be fine for the set top box / embedded markert, but for a consumer machine I think it should have a 9600 pro class chip. By the time the board is ready to go in to production 9600's will be 4p each.

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I think that it might be worthwhile producing 2 versions of the board. I understand that would increase costs as production has to be switched between the 2 designs. ATI Radeon 7000/mobility will be fine for the set top box / embedded markert, but for a consumer machine I think it should have a 9600 pro class chip. By the time the board is ready to go in to production 9600's will be 4p each.

That's exactly what I've been thinking. Since the video cannot ever be upgraded here (except by a PCI card) there needs to be some stronger graphics chipset onboard.

Many people will want to buy this for gaming, and I can tell you the 7500 or less is not going to be very strong for the type of 3D stuff gamers are going to want. It may well handle all of the things that current Amiga applications can throw about, but any of the newer stuff that's hitting the mainstreams now on the PC could have problems trying to run on the 7500. If it had an AGP slot instead of that PCI, I would say it's okay as is.

BTW, has anyone else thought of the implications of using an ATI chipset onboard? Wouldn't that mean that they will get the same level of support from ATI as other manufacturers?

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I dont think its a mobility for two reasons. Doesn't look like any of the pictures here: http://mirror.ati.com/designpartners/media/mobile/

Those pictures are just artist renderings, no chip comes without serial and/or version numbers.

However, since I have nothing better to do I did some creative googling for images of ati chips.
All the images of mobility chips I found did have mobility written on them so I'm guess it's not a mobility.

It does look a lot like this chip though, ironically it has "AGA" written on it.

Check out this link for more pictures of ati chips:
google

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