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Internet connection under OS4 - almost there!!!! Posted on 8-Aug-2005 23:17:06
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I am making a plea to those in the Amiga community who have a sense of helpfulness and patience! I have posted this information before and have gotten only a few responses that have not solved the problem. I am trying again in hopes that I can either identify a bug in OS4 or in my library or systems files. The issue is as follows:
I have tried numerous times in the last 8 months to get the OS4 default internet connection to work on my AmigaOne. It has always failed at the point where I enter my username and password and do a "Test Configuration". My system is a uA1c with OS4 update 3 installed and running fine. My modem is a SupraExpress 56e and works fine using Miami. Previously, (and currently) I have installed Miami to access the internet. It works fine...for an hour at which time it expires and I have to log on again. I would really like to get the default OS4 internet connection working...and I have spent many hours trying...and searching this and other newgroups for answers to no avail! Anyway...here is what I have done...
1) added the line "run >NIL: C:AddNetInterface >NIL: DEVS:NetInterfaces/~(#?.(info|off))" to my startup-sequence after the line that adds dosdrivers 2) removed all references to miami, miamissl and miami libs: directories from my user-startup 3) renamed the bsdsocket.l.main file 4) rebooted the AmigaOne 5) Go to OS4:Internet and run the New Connection icon 6) Add the appropriate information about my connection, phone number, etc. Note - when I get to the Test Configuration window at the modem string entry page, the connection works fine and connects my modem to the provider. 7) I continue to the initialization page where I enter my username and password When I try to use Test Configuration here, I always get the failure "Resource allocation failure. Transmission failed...too many retries"
When I run Snoopdos to show problems, it shows NO FAILURES or PROBLEMS! There is nothing that can be identified as an issue in the snoopdos log (I've posted it before on this newsgroup.)
I suspect one of three issues:
1) my internet connection login name is very strange in that it is my email name i.e. myname@connection.com. Could the "@" in my username cause the program to fail to send the entire string or some such thing? If so, this is a bug in OS4's internet connection software that should be fixed. (Now...I know this is unlikely...but this is one of the last few possibilities.)
2) I could have some old libraries that are 68k based hanging around that cause the connection to fail. I have verified that bsdsocket.library is version 4.263. Is this correct for OS4 update 3? I have tried using only the PPC based libs in my libs directory...still get the same problem. It is even less likely to be old libs than an OS4 problem.
3) There is something missing from the setup...do I need to first configure something else...a ppp layer or something? Seems silly...but nobody has ever mentioned to me any other configuration that is necessary. Also, just a note... I have tried all of the modem configuration strings and they do not make this work. Someone previously had suggested that the modem init strings were likely to be my issue...sadly, I have even coped the exact one that works from Miami and it gives the same errors.
Please, if anyone can help...it would be GREATLY appreciated. I can provide more info such as the snoopdos log or action logs...in fact I'll paste the latest action log below.
Thanks for any helpful ideas and or suggestions. Sorry for taking up so much bandwidth!
Scott
[2005-08-08 18:33:07] Modem on a1serial.device, unit 0 was selected. [2005-08-08 18:33:36] > AT&F&C1&D2 [2005-08-08 18:33:36] > OK [2005-08-08 18:33:36] > ATM0 [2005-08-08 18:33:36] > OK [2005-08-08 18:33:36] > ATDT4734019 [2005-08-08 18:34:01] > CONNECT 115200 [2005-08-08 18:34:04] > Level 3 Comm nas25.orl1 UQKT2 [2005-08-08 18:34:04] > Username:/login:/Login:+++ [2005-08-08 18:34:04] > OK [2005-08-08 18:34:29] > AT&F&C1&D2 [2005-08-08 18:34:29] > OK [2005-08-08 18:34:29] > ATM0 [2005-08-08 18:34:29] > OK [2005-08-08 18:34:29] > ATDT4734019 [2005-08-08 18:34:50] > CONNECT 115200 [2005-08-08 18:34:54] > +++ [2005-08-08 18:34:54] > OK [2005-08-08 18:35:01] Connection attempt failed [2005-08-08 18:35:01] (Resource allocation failure, Transmission failed - too many retries)
Last edited by scabit on 07-Jan-2009 at 08:40 PM.
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 8-Aug-2005 23:37:06
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| @scabit
Read your PM please.
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Not the main issue here but: Please do not mix up 68k and PPC files unless you know what you are doing. AWeb PPC, for instance, will not be so happy with 68k Miami.
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 9-Aug-2005 9:50:46
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ok, first of all add this to your s:startup-sequence:
kdebug "console memory" >nil: kdebug debuglevel 0 >nil:
just below the version so it's the 2nd and 3rd lines, Because you have a µA1, you don't have access to a second serial port and any debug information that is send goes to the modem which doesn't hekp.
next, unless you have any ethernet devices connected, tuen off the addnetinterfaces line by putting a ; at the beginning. the command is really 'add(ether)netinterface' not 'add(inter)netinterface'
what did you do with your bsdsocket.library? miami creates it's own and would complain if the os4 one was in libs:
please email me your 'connection file', DON'T post it as it contains your password (even though it is encrypted). _________________ OS4 Rocks  X1000 beta tester, Sam440 Flex (733)
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 9-Aug-2005 9:54:32
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| @number6
Erm... wrong. it should make no difference at all, if awebppc won't work with miami then it's a bug in aweb. the library provides the same API whether it's 68k or PPC. _________________ OS4 Rocks  X1000 beta tester, Sam440 Flex (733)
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 9-Aug-2005 10:00:24
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| @Severin
But.. you do need to install the "bsdsocket.l.main" wrapper if you want to use PPC apps with a 68k TCP/IP stack. _________________ Playstation Network ID: xeron6 |
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 9-Aug-2005 10:13:58
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 9-Aug-2005 11:52:35
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Hmmm... is it? I didn't think so, but I might be wrong. After all, you don't need it if you have a PPC stack. _________________ Playstation Network ID: xeron6 |
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 9-Aug-2005 13:31:59
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| @severin @xeron
This makes perfect sense. It would explain a lot. Maybe someone would be so kind to confirm whether this alone would explain why the 68k apps (YAM2.4, IBrowse 2.3 (demo), Voyager) work with Miami, while AWeb PPC does not.
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 9-Aug-2005 13:47:27
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Yes it would. _________________ Playstation Network ID: xeron6 |
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 9-Aug-2005 14:05:38
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| @severin & @xeron
Thanks to you both for the discussion and the answer.
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 9-Aug-2005 15:01:50
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[2005-08-08 18:34:01] > CONNECT 115200
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Did you try reducing connection speed? I've just changed to broadband but my old 56k modem would not coonect if I used conect 115200 had to keep to 56k.
A second thought, have you another modem to try?
My old modem got destroyed by ligtning and whilst waiting for broadband I used an even older one, my A1 just would not use it. (Nor would my wifes windows PC)
It could detect in the start of the setup program (switching on and of hook and connecting at link level to the isp) but when it came to using for real it would not work.
So if you can find / borrow and alternate modem.
My temp modem would work on my a1200 using miami. Never tried miami on my A1._________________ BroadBlues On Blues BroadBlues On Amiga Walker Broad |
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 9-Aug-2005 16:07:26
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Any luck?
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 9-Aug-2005 16:11:33
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Did you try reducing connection speed? I've just changed to broadband but my old 56k modem would not coonect if I used conect 115200 had to keep to 56k.
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I had that problem too...Last edited by Severin on 09-Aug-2005 at 04:12 PM.
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 9-Aug-2005 17:09:05
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| @Severin & @Broadblues
Interesting as always. Independent standalone modem here. Taken from the manual: Smart One 33.6 Kbps Plug & Play Modems - Also known as "Smart One 336 FLX" Setting 115200 has not prevented this particular modem from connecting. When I have experienced any difficulty with this modem, it has been in relation to problems outside of the framework of the modem itself.
But...I will run some other tests to try and gauge any effects from changing the bps. (already running at a different setting)
@thread
Anyone who has been to a number of retail outlets and seen the brands of 56k modems still available. What is the most common brand and model# please.
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 9-Aug-2005 19:50:56
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"Did you try reducing connection speed?"
Yes...not sure if I mentioned it but I set the actual serial port speed to 56k rathert han the default 115200 that Miami is using. It didn't help.
Thanks,
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 9-Aug-2005 19:58:55
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Okay...i'll add the lines to startup-sequence as you suggest and email you my connection file shortly. Thanks for your help and ideas debugging this problem!
Oh...I have added the bsdsocket.l.main file to my libs: directory so that miami can use the OS4 bsdsocket.library. At least, I think that is what it is for. When I try using the OS4 internet connection software, I removed the bsdsocket.l.main from my libs: dir so that the PPC stuff will be used as normal. Thanks,
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 9-Aug-2005 20:35:21
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 9-Aug-2005 21:48:51
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Huh?
->"At least, I think that is what it is for. When I try using the OS4 internet connection software, I removed the bsdsocket.l.main from my libs: dir so that the PPC stuff will be used as normal...
bsdsocket l.main = 51.2 (05/25/2005) bsdsocket.library 4.263 (05/19/2005)
These are base files in update#3 I think? How old is your modem?
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 10-Aug-2005 0:55:42
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"How old is your modem?"
I purchased my modem in December 2004 when I got my uA1-C for use with it exclusively. As I mentioned before, it works great with Miami. If only I could get a Miami license! Anyone know what Holger Kruse is doing these days?
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Re: Internet connection under OS4 - still not working Posted on 10-Aug-2005 1:07:02
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People speculate about Holger Kruse all the time. I haven't read anything except the threads about him on AW.
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