Since they have rights to AmigaOS, they could make offer for MOS overtaking. That way amiga community could unite again and all developers could develop for one OS?

What do you think?

@amigappc
Hm, I'm not sure someone can BUY MorphOS actually, 'cos there are essential parts OpenSource (i.e. Ambient) or semi-3rd-party (i.e. Poseidon, MUI, Turboprint). I suppose it would be very complicated in terms of "contracts". Moreover I guess laire and all the other MorphOS coders would charge a LOT of money for this kind of buy out ... (I would!)

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I don't think that anyone in the MorphOS-Team is willing to sell it to Hyperion...

@amigappc

and i hope that no one at hyperion is willing to buy mos... i didn't like the os... reminds me every time more of my linux than my amiga box.

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i didn't like the os... reminds me every time more of my linux than my amiga box.

That is a curious statement from an user of an OS with .so objects, X11 apps and swap. But whatever. For me, it's quite the opposite. My MorphOS box has everything, which i love in my Amigas. But it's a matter of personal taste anyway.

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@amigappc
Because Hyperion don't have the need for it, the money to buy it and MOS is not for sale?

If MOS was for sale I think it it be a VERY expensive way to gain... 400(?) users.

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While of course I don't speak for them, I don't think MorphOS Team is looking for a way to give away MorphOS. And lets be honest, especially not for Hyperion...

But even if it would happen, i suspect it would end with most of MorphOS' key technologies fading out soon as they're conflicting with technologies developed by Hyperion in-house, which they surely won't give up. Not to mention the technologies which are generally considered as advantages of MorphOS over OS4 (faster/better 3D and graphics in general, better desktop, better CLI shells, support for Mac hardware) are useless without other MorphOS key components. You can't just take MorphOS' Radeon driver, and run it with P96 on OS4. You can't just get Ambient or ScreenBar plugins and run them without MUI4. You can't just get MUI4 in all it's glory, and run it without support for advanced graphics operations, intuition extensions and so on MorphOS offers. You can't just copy & paste all the code for Mac platform support from Quark to ExecSG.

It would be a HUGE work to adapt these things together, and i think with little to no benefit for MorphOS. I mean, what could Hyperion offer for MorphOS, besides money and the "official" name sticker? MorphOS is financially independent and it was doing well without name stickers in the past 10+ years. It has it's own userbase, own set of rules and priorities, own mascots, even own history. Consider this: MorphOS has actually longer history now, than Commodore Amiga. (1999-2010 vs. 1985-1994). I'm using my Pegasos 2 for more than six years now, which is longer than any other machine i've been using as my primary desktop. And it was just getting better and better, more usable over the years. And i don't see any benefits such union could give me. But try to convince me.

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@Chain-Q

since when is X11 an part of OS4?

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You keep missing the point of my post.

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@Chain-Q

MorphOS have some key feature, thats true, but there are advanced features also in AmigaOS

Virtual memory
Better DOS
Screen dragging
More customisable GUI
Better AmiDock with Docky things
Notification support
More hardware support

And so so on ...

So each system has their unique advantage, you can't say that one is 100% better or worse than the other.

Having said that, an hypothetical reunification would help both part, but sadly this thing is condamned to remain just a dream ...

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@samo79
I never questioned OS4 have key features, but again, you keep missing the point too. OS4's key features would be similarly hard to integrate to MorphOS.

(BTW, in what way OS4's DOS better than MorphOS', and i also argue about the "more customizable GUI", but that's not the discussion here.)

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@Chain-Q

I guess I missed your point too in that case. There's been the possibility of runing X11 apps on AOS 3.x as well through X11 server ports and I have never thought that it made it equal to the Linux OS.

He didn't think that MOS felt as much as an amiga as AmigaOS 4.x, why is that a problem to you? No AmigaOS 4 does NOT feel like Linux to me either.

Since all those long years since MOS became available I've seen the behaviour of several MOS users at mailinglists and in forums going insane for no reason claiming aos users for seing it as a religion seems to be popular and at the same time silly since those going insane over a operating system are those using MOS. You can't stand someone saying that they don't like it. You can't stand if something are good or well about amigaos. And no I have NEVER seen this behaviour anywhere else or from someone else than a few MOS users.

I'm sorry for those actig this way, I can't imagine what kind of a life these people got. Yes I love the amiga too but come on! Be happy that that Hyperion are developing it, be happy that MOS are available if you like it but understand that MOS might not be for everybody and that is true the other way around too.

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And no I have NEVER seen this behaviour anywhere else or from someone else than a few MOS users.

We are evil, and being proud of it. Next!

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@amigappc

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What do you think?

it end it up to another ''mine is bigger than yours'' thread

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He didn't think that MOS felt as much as an amiga as AmigaOS 4.x, why is that a problem to you? No AmigaOS 4 does NOT feel like Linux to me either.

I guess he's wondering why you are thinking so since Hyperion has integrated a lot of Linux features into OS4, like: shared objects, swap, etc...

He also added that Linux/X11 compatibility which is being actively developed (but not officialy part of OS4, indeed) makes it even more like Linux. And this X11 compatibilty is often mentionned as an advantage for OS4 (see: http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=30859&forum=28&start=380&viewmode=flat&order=0#543698), even though it's not officialy part of OS4.

MorphOS stays away from that: you have no swap, no support for some weird Linux standard, nor for alien Linux applications. Instead it focuses on providing the best possible Amiga compatibility while improving it in a number of ways.

Knowing that, I guess his questionning is valid... You're free to prefer OS4 over MorphOS. but saying it looks like Linux doesn't seem correct. Does it ?

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i was running x11 in my 1200 with wb3.1 so what's the problem with x11?
i didn't see anyone to complain about this.

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@Chain-Q

Insane are more like it

I have a few question on this

Does anyone know if a MorphOS emulator could be made for AmigaOS4?
Could Hyperion inculded it into the OS?
Is there anything stoping the MorphOS team devloping there OS for the Sam or AmigaOne X1000 when its out?

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@amigappc

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That way amiga community could unite again and all developers could develop for one OS?

Uh, what about the AROS users and developers, people working to develop the 68k platform further, people sticking with classic, and so on? OS4 and MOS are far from the only actors in the Amiga community.

@Leo

Like I wrote everyone are right to think what they want. Who are you to tell someone "you're not allowed to think this because of this"? It's not for you to decide or go banans over someone elses opinion only because you don't agree.

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