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Deniil715 
Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 18-Aug-2004 3:54:50
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Hi!

After waiting for over an hour for AmiPDF to display a cetain page in a "difficult" pdf-file I launched SysInspector and to my surprise I found AmiPDF in this list! As SysInspector is 68k it should not be able to see OS4-native programs, right?? SysInspector was also able to remove AmiPDF without any problem. I did not expect this so my question is: Is AmiPDF not PPC-OS4-native in OS4-pre or what?? I was fairly certain it was...

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Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 18-Aug-2004 4:08:28
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@Deniil715

It's a 68k binary afaik.

(Edit: Nope it wasn't. /me wants os4 update now!)

/Björn

 
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jtubbs 
Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 18-Aug-2004 5:13:25
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@Deniil715

I also found AmiPDF unacceptably slow on large files. The ghostscript version works much better. I don't know if it's emulated or ppc, but it is much faster.

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JurassicC 
Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 18-Aug-2004 6:25:37
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@Deniil715

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Deniil715 wrote:
Hi!

After waiting for over an hour for AmiPDF to display a cetain page in a "difficult" pdf-file I launched SysInspector and to my surprise I found AmiPDF in this list! As SysInspector is 68k it should not be able to see OS4-native programs, right?? SysInspector was also able to remove AmiPDF without any problem. I did not expect this so my question is: Is AmiPDF not PPC-OS4-native in OS4-pre or what?? I was fairly certain it was...


See this :-

http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1496

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One program that has seen a tremendous speed boost is AmiPDF. The new PowerPC version of AmiPDF is, depending on input, up to 60 times faster than the original version on the prerelease.

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Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 18-Aug-2004 7:32:13
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@Deniil715

AmiPDF has now been updated and uses newlib.library which has given it a massive speed increase (very large documents loading in under 5 seconds or so), I have no doubt that it will be available when the updates are released!

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Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 18-Aug-2004 8:46:26
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@jtubbs

The latest version is much faster. It will probably be in the update...

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EntilZha 
Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 18-Aug-2004 8:49:04
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@Deniil715

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I launched SysInspector and to my surprise I found AmiPDF in this list! As SysInspector is 68k it should not be able to see OS4-native programs, right??


No. There is no difference between 68k and PPC tasks.

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ssolie 
Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 18-Aug-2004 14:28:01
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@sicky
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AmiPDF has now been updated and uses newlib.library which has given it a massive speed increase...

Note that the clib2 library has since been optimized and is just as fast as newlib.library now as far as I/O and memory handling are concerned. Just tested the latest clib2 last night and it is moving along nicely now.

@Deniil715
AmiPDF on the OS4-PR is PPC. Sometimes, emulation isn't the bottleneck...

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jtubbs 
Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 19-Aug-2004 5:28:00
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@EntilZha

That is great to hear. The first time I tried using AmiPDF, I gave up and booted up linux and read the documents there. It almost seemed sacreligious doing so.

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sloxa 
Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 19-Aug-2004 6:40:38
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@Deniil715

in amiga os4.0 news.. 2 moths a go..
there are some info about amipdf.. they say
at the real and final versio is altivec supported and g4 otimised..
and about 60 times faster than beta which is os4.0 beta.

you can find the news in amiga.com and amigaone
news section...

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Sirsilver 
Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 19-Aug-2004 7:09:54
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@Deniil715

I have used AmiPDF on a number of occasions and have not noticed it being slow.
As a matter of fact I was quite pleased with it

( mind you, I'm easily pleased :)

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sloxa 
Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 19-Aug-2004 7:29:02
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@Sirsilver

yes your right... is not slow..

i have 1ghz peesee and it's faster then my peesee
(but in peesee i have (bill gates software)

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gnarly 
Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 19-Aug-2004 8:28:48
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@EntilZhaQuote:
It will probably be in the update...
When its done?

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Lanza 
Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 19-Aug-2004 8:57:18
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I would prefer a pdf.datatype...

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broch 
Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 19-Aug-2004 10:23:13
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To show if a program is PPC og 68k native you can use my little shell program called list68k which can be found on www.os4depot.net in the utility/shell folder.

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MichaelMerkel 
Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 19-Aug-2004 12:24:13
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@EntilZha

Quote:

EntilZha wrote:
@jtubbs

The latest version is much faster. It will probably be in the update...


only "probably"?

well, ben told at amiwest that you aim to release the update at end of august at latest.
do you still don't know what will part of the update? any problems with some of the development? or can you give us a more detailed list here?

sort of a status update of the current beta and "prerelease 2nd edition" would be really appreciated by all of us i think.

thanks in advance and
byebye...

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Anonymous 
Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 19-Aug-2004 12:47:39
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EntilZha isn't in a position that requires him to know what goes or not. It's not up to him. Or atleast that what has been told before. So it doesn't have to mean that the content scope isn't frozen already just because EntilZha is a bit unsure.

There's a possibility of it not being frozen, but using a "probably" from EntilZha to draw that conclusion is a bit of a stretch.

/Björn

 
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EntilZha 
Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 19-Aug-2004 13:40:43
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@MichaelMerkel

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only "probably"?


Yes, because I don't know. I don't organize the update (luckily )

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well, ben told at amiwest that you aim to release the update at end of august at latest.
do you still don't know what will part of the update? any problems with some of the development? or can you give us a more detailed list here?


See above. I have no clue about the project as a whole. I'm just the kernel guy

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EntilZha 
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Posted on 19-Aug-2004 13:42:48
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@Orgin

Exactly

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miksuh 
Re: Is AmiPDF emulated in OS4-pre???
Posted on 19-Aug-2004 16:26:44
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@Deniil715

There was one AmigaOne XE-G4 running OS4 beta at Assembly'04. I saw AmiPDF running too and it was wery fast indeed,.

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