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Deniil715 
Ethernet + Sound = Unstable
Posted on 30-Oct-2004 13:34:00
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I have found out that if I play music and use the net at the same time, especially continuous like FTP och streaming, my A1XE/G4 may hang at any time. When it hangs, it hangs hard, really hard with a tone coming from the soundcard (the playbuffer on the soundcard seems to stuck in a loop). No keyboard reset works, only the reset switch on the case.

The hang may come after 10 minutes or after 10 hours. It depends on how high the net traffic is. Streaming with AmiNetRadio usually takes a few hours before it locks up, but eventuelly it will. Playing mp3-files with AmigaAmp and downloading at 500k/s over FTP may last between a couple of minutes to a few hours. Quite random. Streaming with ANR and download over FTP usually doesn't last very long.

Nothing else seems to be able to lock the machine this hard.

Only downloading lasts forever, or until RC-FTPd crashes, which has happened on a few occasions. Only playing music-files with e.g. AmigaAmp also seems to last forever. Also leaving the machine alone cracking RC5-keys or whatever makes it go forever aswell.

This means that there has to be some bug in the interrupt handling concerning ethernet and sound.

I have a SB Audigy 2 (which the Mixer doesn't support (yet)), standard onboard ethernet, VIA-IDE in PIO-mode, Radeon 7000.

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Re: Ethernet + Sound = Unstable
Posted on 30-Oct-2004 13:53:42
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@Deniil715
Try using AMPlifier for streaming instead. ANR - as nice as it is - is not the most stable of programs unfortunately

 
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Toaks 
Re: Ethernet + Sound = Unstable
Posted on 30-Oct-2004 13:56:40
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@Trezzer

and here i am...i cant even get anr to run at all ..but then again i never checked why but i do use amplifier to stream and save audio to hdd...

works well...never seen it crash ...but heh id love an os4 native player...like rightaway

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Deniil715 
Re: Ethernet + Sound = Unstable
Posted on 30-Oct-2004 17:36:17
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@Trezzer

I know it's hasn't been the most stable player, but the current v3.1 seems extremely stable. It has never crashed or anything on my A1200, playing for days and days. Same on the A1 except for the few lock-ups I get. Now it has been running for some 6 hours without any problems.
But the thing is that AmigaAmp, which is rock solid on both the A1200 and the A1, gets unstable if I engage in a lot of network activity while playing on the A1.

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Re: Ethernet + Sound = Unstable
Posted on 30-Oct-2004 17:41:45
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@Deniil715

Have you tried TuneNet?
I've never had any problems with it.

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Deniil715 
Re: Ethernet + Sound = Unstable
Posted on 30-Oct-2004 18:45:29
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No I haven't. Where can I find it? OS4Depot? Gotta check...

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Deniil715 
Re: Ethernet + Sound = Unstable
Posted on 30-Oct-2004 19:09:29
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@tomazkid

TuneNet is not what I'm looking for. I use ANR mainly because its superb search functionality! I don't have to surf the web and search for playlists to download and mess with, I just search and play. A streamer without built-in search is of no interest for me. ANR rules! (except for the wierd lock-ups I occasionally get...)

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Re: Ethernet + Sound = Unstable
Posted on 30-Oct-2004 20:42:19
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@Deniil715

To test your theory, why not play music while doing a network transfer that keeps the network card busy, such as an FTP to/from a machine on your local network?

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victim 
Re: Ethernet + Sound = Unstable
Posted on 30-Oct-2004 21:02:44
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@Deniil715

it is very stable i'd say. If you encounter problems you probably better wait for OS4-release and complain to friedens when it still crashes.

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spotUP 
Re: Ethernet + Sound = Unstable
Posted on 30-Oct-2004 21:45:47
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@Deniil715

I had almost exactly the same problems as you before.
The lockup with the beep was exactly the same, only the circumstances was a bit different. My computer locked up, freezed, and started this neverending beep. The difference is that I don't use ethernet here, and I was offline, I didn't even have a modem connected. It didn't matter wich player i used, songplayer, amigaamp, amplifier... it occured under all players. What I did was feeding more volts to my CPU and it's now stable. Try that if you haven't already.

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tonyw 
Re: Ethernet + Sound = Unstable
Posted on 1-Nov-2004 3:29:54
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@Deniil715

Don't forget to improve your CPU cooling before you heat it up with more volts.

tony

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Re: Ethernet + Sound = Unstable
Posted on 1-Nov-2004 6:20:40
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@Deniil715

Try moving the sound card, you might have IRQ conflict,

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