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Cammy 
Learn to program Amiga applications and games in #AmigaE
Posted on 17-Jul-2011 22:44:32
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Hi everyone. Would you like to learn, brush up on, or teach Amiga programming? AmigaE and PortablE are excellent programming languages for the Amiga, and many top quality applications and games have been written in this language. I am learning to program in it myself, and so are a few others, while some of the more experienced coders help out by teaching us and explaining how things work.

We have regular meetings around this time (check the time I posted this and it should show the appropriate time for your time zone) every Sunday/Monday (check the date of my post, it's Monday for me in Australia but Sunday still for SamuraiCrow). Our meetings are in the #Amiga channel on the Freenode IRC network.

If you're online at the moment and would like to join in, learn to program and chat about some development projects, please drop by!

#AmigaE

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Cammy 
Re: Learn to program Amiga applications and games in #AmigaE
Posted on 31-Jul-2011 22:37:35
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Hi everyone! Just a reminder that our AmigaE game programming class is on again today, so join #AmigaE on irc.freenode.net now if you want to pick up some pointers or help out.

Thanks!

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Deniil715 
Re: Learn to program Amiga applications and games in #AmigaE
Posted on 1-Aug-2011 10:19:31
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For anyone who has been sitting on the fence in getting started with programming for Amiga should really try out AmigaE or any of its successors; PortablE or ECX. Much easier to learn and get started with than C/C++.

PortableE is a new and modern incarnation of E with much better OOP support and type checking and is targetted primarily at AmigaOS4 but also for AmigaOS3, MorphOS, AROS and Windows. IIRC

ECX is much closer to the original E language and primarily targetted for MorphOS, but also for AmigaOS4 and AmigaOS3 IIRC.

EC, the original AmigaE generates 68k binaries for AmigaOS2 & 3 only but they run fine on OS4/Petunia and MOS/Trance as well. This compiler is super fast but has one or two bugs...

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Re: Learn to program Amiga applications and games in #AmigaE
Posted on 1-Aug-2011 10:22:56
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@Cammy

Thanks for the info! I'll try to make it next monday.

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Posted on 1-Aug-2011 13:10:07
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@OP

Not so much interested in AmigaE, but I will make time for learning PortablE at some point as Chris has put so much effort into it and its current.

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mrdarek 
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@Cammy

Better then talking on IRC is writing post on official portablE forum. Examples on forum will be helpful in future for all.
And if Chris will be see interest PortablE language - he add more effort into program, bug fixing and develop new features like he was very helpful in my coding ami-lineapolis.

I start writing my program with zeros knowledge about PortablE soon after sam460ex released, after some month my programis quite good, I think... PortablE is easy and powerfull and with Chris support is best language!

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Hypex 
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Posted on 1-Aug-2011 16:37:45
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@Cammy

Thanks for the reminder Cammy, I'll be sure to pop in.

@ChrishH

Good overview of the Amiga E universe.

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Samurai_Crow 
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Posted on 1-Aug-2011 18:08:16
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@Thread

The results from last week's work is available as a zip of AmigaE source at this FileDropper link. Yesterday night, (or this morning to you Aussies) we did some refactoring already to convert the itemclass class to a custom constructor of inventory. We also did some fixing of the inventorytest.e file which we will be continuing next week.

@Hypex
It was in mid-morning in eastern Australia time and we quit at lunchtime. Maybe you can help out next week though.

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Etho 
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Posted on 1-Aug-2011 18:28:36
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@Cammy

I'm 33 now, the last time I programmed was in college and that was COBOL & 6502 Controllers (EMMA II BOARDS, for those interested!). I fear I have forgotten much, if not all and would be unable to start a-fresh!, although I like this idea.


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BinoX 
Re: Learn to program Amiga applications and games in #AmigaE
Posted on 2-Aug-2011 0:23:36
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@Etho

Quote:

(EMMA II BOARDS, for those interested


EMMA II... I never knew they made them.... I have an original "EMMA" 6502 here and many add-ons... Not easy to get hold of these days, lol

I'll have to keep my eyes open for an EMMA II now

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Templario 
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Posted on 2-Aug-2011 13:58:15
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@Cammy

For someone that have been far from the programming, is more easy Hollywood because with few code lines you can to see something, the E has the it has the advantage of having active forums but Hollywood too, and with Hollywood you can make programs for all Amiga systems.

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Yssing 
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Posted on 2-Aug-2011 14:40:30
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Hmm

Maybe I should E a shot. :)

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Samurai_Crow 
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Posted on 2-Aug-2011 15:20:13
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@Templario

Hollywood requires 24-bit video modes to work. This virtually rules out development on an A600 or stock A1200. AmigaE works on both of those. Furthermore, ChrisH is working on a powerful compiler to run a new dialect of E called PortablE that, when completed, will run on as many systems as Hollywood.

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Re: Learn to program Amiga applications and games in #AmigaE
Posted on 2-Aug-2011 16:27:48
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@Cammy

Cool

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Templario 
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Posted on 4-Aug-2011 17:25:43
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@Samurai_Crow

Sorry, I not remember that she use the Amiga Classics.

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ChrisH 
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@Cammy
I only just saw this thread :( . Fraid I wasn't able to visit the IRC channel the last couple of weeks or so, but hopefully can make it again.


With regards to PortablE vs Hollywood, although I am not familiar with Hollywood, I doubt it's programs can be much more compact than PortablE r6 ones (in general), although I am still improving PortablE... PortablE also has the benefit of a 'proper' GUI system (although it is missing a couple of features at the moment), unlike Hollywood. But PortablE & Hollywood are quite different beasts (with different goals), so comparing them fairly is not so easy.

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ChrisH 
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Posted on 6-Aug-2011 16:16:56
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@Cammy
I forgot to mention the following "official" page, which includes a direct link to a UTC time clock (not to mention the time in UTC) :
http://cshandley.co.uk/amigae/irc.html

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Posted on 6-Aug-2011 17:43:25
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Don´t forget about AmiBlitz. Although its only for 68k-Amigas its a really powerful language producing fast code.

AmigaE (and PortableIE) are interesting, too. I will try them out soon.

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Deniil715 
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Posted on 6-Aug-2011 21:34:25
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@AP

No offence, but promoting AmiBlitz is probably not the best idea since, as you say, produces only 68k binaries, and AFAIK does not show a path to the future.

PortablE is designed for the future. Using g++ as main backend also produces fast and efficient code and makes it future proof.

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Posted on 6-Aug-2011 22:19:13
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@Cammy

I am learning to program in it myself...
Great, but I'll pass. PyGame got me hooked! Since SDLBasic is dead in OS4, I started translating my stuff to PyGame. A very awesome languge!

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