Once OS4 has some hardware which can be bought (and so OS4 can actually be sold!), it *might* make sense to charge for new OS4 hardware licenses - but until then beggars can't be choosers, and Hyperion is the one doing the begging (for hardware).

I doubt that Hyperion are stupid, so I can only assume that their hands are tied by Amiga Inc. I almost wish that Genesi had gotten their hands on OS4.... But really, it's too late for Hyperion to do anything more that will improve matters now (unless Amiga Inc go bust tomorrow), so we'll just have to see how the dice fall at the BB4. I don't think I'm overstating things when I say that the BB4 is crunch-time not only for Troika, but for OS4 too.

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@Seehund

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AOS4 can NOT do without commercially attractive hardware. Else it can't be sold.

I have a CSPPC and I would immediatly buy a copy of AOS4.0. (I paid once $50 in advance for that) And i'm shure i'm not the only who would buy it. But the numbers are getting lower and lower, as Morphos Powerup runs pretty well.

Markus

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@Seehund

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BBRV/Genesi or any other remotely relevant hardware producer don't "want" AOS4.

It never crossed my mind that one could go badly after something he/she does not want. I feel enlightened

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They want to sell hardware, and AOS doesn't help sell hardware any more than the other OSs which already run on their hardware.

Let me get it straight - English is not my native language, so I'd like to make sure I'm not misinterpreting you.
Are you saying that AOS4 would not help selling the HW because there are already other OSes doing the job? Fine. What is BB doing here, then?
Or - as it seems to me - are you saying that AOS4 *would* help (although not more than the other OSes) selling the HW and thus, obviously, a welcome addition to the collection of OSes? Fine. Then I don't get how it can be that he wants to sell HW, he realizes AOS4 can help and still he does not want AOS. And, on top of that, there's the fact that he's been after AOS4 ever since. I kinda feel short-circuited.

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Rather the opposite, I'd think. Either way it's worth neither money nor time to try to get permission, a licence, to be allowed to try to sell AOS bundled with and dongled to their hardware

BB has invested and keeps investing time and money to get AOS4 (and this very thread is just the last example). The license may not be worth it, but AOS4 is
In practice, he's just trying to dodge the license. Whether because he just cannot get it or does not want it is unknown and, after all, irrelevant: in both cases he is playing questionable games.

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For their sake I hope BBRV are only wooing AmigaOS loci in their spare time when they have nothing better to do...

I'll be very worried the day I can't find anything better than investing my time, energies and money to go after something I don't need (or even don't want at all).

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AOS4 can NOT do without commercially attractive hardware. Else it can't be sold.

Agreed. But... where's the news?

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None of whatever pointless projects which have gotten their pre-progress reports pre-pre-pre-announced are commercially attractive.

Unless you mean something else - in which case I'd ask you to elaborate -, you are saying the projects being discussed these days are commercially pointless, right? So, what facts can back up this statement? You know, without them, this is spreading FUD.

saimo

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