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Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 17:15:51
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 17:22:58
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  My question is; where does Amiga fit into all of this?  I browsed through the biz plan and saw nothing in regards to the Amiga market.  BBRV please tell us what plans you have in regards to OSW and the Amiga platform. _________________
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 17:31:54
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  Well, none of the Amigaoid OSes can really make use of more than 1 core (despite some fluffy PR claiming the opposite). One could sure blame BBRV for this (hmmm, or maybe not).
  None of the teams behind those OSes has sofar announced interested into porting to the OSW. Now that surely MUST be BBRV's fault     _________________ - We don't need good ideas, we haven't run out on bad ones yet - blame Canada  |  
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 17:36:31
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  | "The Open Server Workstation is a six layer board with two 970MP  processors, the CPC945 and Broadcom's HT-1000 and 2000 chips.  Excepting those parts, the board and component cost is below $200."
  I guess this would be a nice design to license when AmigaOS 4.0 is about to take the next step?
  With virtualization (Xen) this board will kick ass. Imagine running an efficient MorphOS or AmigaOS on one CPU and use the rest for  Linux to fill up the needs neither AmigaOS nor MorphOS can fulfill.  |  
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 17:37:17
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  Holy Crap Batman!
 
  
  Didn't see this coming!      |  
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 17:42:02
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  In regards to the current discussions that there is no open, powerful PPC hardware; Well, here it is!  
  However, in an Amiga context, I see a lot more potential from the Efika though ...  |  
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 17:43:14
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  | takemehomegrandma: Yeah! I almost #### my pants!
 
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 17:43:54
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  | Interesting.
  Looks like (I don't know the specs):
  16x PCIe 4x PCIe PCI (2 of)
  Looks like you can plug 8 dimms into it. A lot of complex stuff around the CPUs, probably for power.
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 17:53:02
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 18:23:27
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  | With virtualization (Xen) this board will kick ass. Imagine running an efficient MorphOS or AmigaOS on one CPU and use the rest for Linux to fill up the needs neither AmigaOS nor MorphOS can fulfill. |  
 
  Considering that the PPC970MP is a dual-core processor that may be an OK gesture.  Most games for OS4 are under SDL so they'll probably run just as well under Linux.    |  
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 18:38:28
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  | @ironfist Heh.  'Two More Weeks' does indeed seem the right mantra there.
  BB and RV _love_ to 'hint...some might say it's about all they do at time..yet OSW was also due out in August, and before then, along with the blades and the Efika, if I'm not mistaken...so *shrug*
  Believe it when I see it, but even then, it's of zero interest to me unless it ran OS4, whichis highly unlikely.
  Just a big *shrug*- it's not news, and at this point, I'm not even sure it's interesting, really...to me, anyways.
  PS - Not implying other 'companies' are any better at making deadlines, by any means... Last edited by wegster on 28-Oct-2006 at 06:40 PM.
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 18:57:25
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  The OSW is mighty cool. I hope I can afford one soon. Last edited by ironfist on 28-Oct-2006 at 06:59 PM.
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 19:13:20
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  | @ironfist And what will you use it for, out of curiousity?
  What will you use it for, that can't be accomplished equally as well with, or better, with an X86 system, for example?
  The power consumtion babble is becoming less and less of a valid argument nowadays, as both Intel and AMD have decent lower consumption CPUs available now..
  *shrug* I'm just not seeing a compelling reason or use case here for many.  With Apple out of the PPC market, there's even less Linux distros really worrying about PPC support, and I think that will likely decline over time.  There's also the question of what would it benefit you to choose to run Linux on an ASW versus another system?
  It's a nice system from what I've seen spec-wise...I wouldn't turn one down, but I'm just not seeing a huge potential there.  I guess it's best use might be as a dev box for Efika based projects?
  On the other hand, the non-existent blades were of more interest, and had a use case in their computing density..
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 20:05:52
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 20:14:18
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  be careful with your avatar could be considered risque as there are a lot of  censorship these times on Amigaworld     _________________ No PowerPC, No Fun Make Amiga Great Again  |  
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 20:36:20
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  | Fransexy: Well.. Some guys actually are turned on by dolls..
 
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 20:38:41
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  | @ironfist RE: animated image
 
  
  Ok, ok..  
 
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 20:51:21
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  Now you just gotta fit that into 120x120 pixels and 6144 bytes - if you need any help, just ask Seehund.   Last edited by hatschi on 28-Oct-2006 at 08:55 PM.
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 20:55:39
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Re: Open Server Workstation Getting Ready Posted on 28-Oct-2006 20:56:26
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  The Cell sim supposedly runs a lot faster on 64 bit PPC but that's not much of an argument now you can buy the real things.
  The 970 is currently finding a new life in supercomputers, they happen to be very good at highly intensive computing apps.  In fact the 970 still beats Intel's top processor on Linpack (n=1000).
  IBM is working on a new low power bridge for the 970 so despite everyone protestations, it's not dead yet and wont be anytime soon.
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