Might be a bit dull but burning some (offcourse legal) new things from torrents to a cd&dvd as phoning my father to Spain with Skype&Video at the same time as it's his birthday today (or was) and had to stop a good smashing 3D-racing game connected to the HDMI BigScreen LCD for a while before laughing at some friends YouTube and some tv-sites pranks. A Blu-Ray Video we saw at the bedroom was also seen with this 699e. laptop. Oh and really had to print a colour-laser cover as fast as possible what usually did when Amiga made it possible with an inkjet. So got carried away and hate the pc-laptop.?.

I started this 4,1. (Slow933XE-Slooow9250Radeon-only half a gig and a new 320GB, 5MB-Net, still half more expensive... )

So far: No Viruses;)
Crashed all old 4.0 stuff from years. (Lost allmost all pictures, movies and the legendary mp3 collection, weeks of work adjusting) This was my own fault by not backuping.
Even Final Writer and Payback seemed to work when updating, install them and 100 more again...

New install: Fast. And Then? No viruses;) (Who would bother?;)

Only visit amigaworld.net or maybe OS4Depot with IB and nothing else happens in this small world? (I know OWB and the faster one) Newest games tried from os4depot: Lockup. (4,1 -sorry Spot)

Two resets: Wow how fast! Well, the A500 booted to the same level at those times even faster. Some twenty seconds is so long today. (Well the minute or two in a pc doing some other peoples stuff or installing or sending spam in the pc if not allways removing them is really hair pulling stuff.)

Can't try the demo before sending this message just in case.

No sound still as before from AHI.

Well, I'll watch the pretty icons or some transparent pages and go to sleep then.

Nothing really creative to do, just this stupid moaning. No DeluxePaint or Oktalyzer type trackers? FinalWriter printing to a colour laser or editing pictures for printing and sending... And games and demos offcourse.

I'd (like many) would like to have drivers for everything, a navigator,printer,camera,tv,mp3,mp4,car(Corvette tuning for me at least)
but this cannot happen if they won't become as compliant as car tires (and they are not!) All my family are really frustrated about getting to the net, net, net... As all of You can see my point as You are the wiser ones than me and the rest of the family... For this time there is a big need for a really fast and small efficient but really compatible NetMachine with some digipicture capabilities but everything else goes to net so if I could do It I'd get Jay M. to help me! (Please help the Amiga to rise so we can tell again: Only Amiga Makes It Possible) - And prayers for that, phew!

Ok. I'll start to learn programing now at the age of 30+ before all the 100 things must to do first. (All the respest Jay M.)

Seriously I know quite a lot from the beginning of the A500 till today but just now is a bad day, Sorry.

So how do You have fun with Your new OS4,1?

Please tell me! (And not just this e-mail stuff and wow I can draw/compose/render something as I'm actually writing with it just now as downloading and installing some stuff back) Programming is just not for a nerd like me. Hit me as hard as You like, just so fed up with the Windows Vista with the waiting all time long tonight eventually;)

Ok. Now Visva is back so I actually can do something. Smell You later;)

And please if someone is listening, my idea is the one and if really interested, I can tell the rest for a charge;)

Last edited by PR on 23-Oct-2008 at 12:38 AM.

@PR

Which games did you try?
What sound card do you have?

Most of the time that I'm using OS 4.1, I am programming. However, I also watch movies (via DvPlayer), listen to internet radio (using tunenet). Play games such as x-moto, chromium and AmiJeweled.

Deluxe Paint V should work as should finalwriter. Milkytracker is a music tracker that you can use. Want to do multimedia presentations, or create multimedia apps? Get Hollywood and Hollywood Designer. Into desktop publishing? Go and buy Pagestream (getting that is still on my own to-do list). Into audio recording/editing? Once you get audio working, have a look at Audio Evolution (there's also a small program on os4depot called amisounded).

Finally, have a look at http://os4depot.net/ for more apps to use and games to play. Also, get Amiupdate; it will help you keep certain software (the ones that use the amiupdate service) up to date.

Hans

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@PR

To be honest, if you cannot get the fun with your AmigaOS 4.1 system by yourself, it won't be up to us to explain you how to get it.

Having fun with OS 4.1 is a feeling, it's to be using an alternative OS as hobby but also as main computer (which I do).

As far as I can read, you seem to have a lot more fun with you PC with Vista, I do not see how you could get some fun with your AmigaOne.

The best choice would be to sell it to someone who'd like to have fun with, much more than you can get.

I'm sorry to be rude but I prefer to be honest with you instead of trying to convince you to get some feeling (which is pretty illogical by the way).

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@PR

Regarding the crashing games, if you're referring to rRootage, it's a problem I'm investigating these days, with the help of K-L and NubeCheCorre. It looks like it crashes on many systems using the official MiniGL 2.0 beta, while it runs fine with the latest SVN MiniGL. (Hans, I'm sending you an email about this). I hope to be able to fix this as soon as possible, possibly with a new, working version of rRootage.

K-L

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@K-L

Depends really what do you use it for, and what do you expect from it, more than a feeling matter. My A1 can do most of the things I need, and for the things it can't I try to make it possible by porting myself the software I need, when the sources are available and portable.

Varthall

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@Hans

Hello! I did get FW to work but not installed now as all is formatted and if DPV works too then I'm sold as it does not on the A1200'060 PIV (Screenmodes, I know modepro but gets small) and Ppaint is similar but the machine has got a "bit old" and used mainly on some games (AB3DII&Deluxe Galaga and racing 2D-games) and occasionally even today some broachure modifications for our company.

In DP there are no good screen selections as I think? (Tip for EA;) The pc's DP 2 or whatever is horrible. It would be really nice to go to animations again and continue my work for my company but then steps in the printing...

Payback used to work "so and so" as the guy could not enter a car etc. but not installed it to the new fresh and all quite blank 4,1.

The rest of the stuff is very, very know but could I carry my XE to the "Studio" next door and back using WLAN offcourse to load something to the Roland DrumKit easily..

Oh, SBLive! is the soundcard and it should work but maybe me messing something up. X-Moto freezes immediately. AmiUpdate did that too before. Maybe I'll try it again as it worked before as a start but then. Good ideas. Thank You "verymany" - as we say here.


all@ Remember when it really was fun? I went to Malaga when a kid when living in near Torremolinos without telling my parents just to get DigiView Gold and the best audio digitizer. Did animations, now some 2500 disks, mostly dd lying around. Then when in home country had only one A500 so installed 8MB under the chip, ActionReplay IV and all other that just plugs in, jumped right away to A4000 when possible. Now owning only four Amigas so please keep advices simple but bear in mind that there is some knowledge and I really try to keep track of the happenings.

Edit: Oh yeah. Had regged Amijewled too as many others.

Last edited by PR on 23-Oct-2008 at 06:57 AM.

@K-L

Sad but true. That's why I sold the other XE and also the extra module to a good home. (They know who they are;) ) I hate Windows. I know the feeling.
Learned a lot and would not change the great experiences and learning from the Amiga and the people at any price. It grew me up at some time so the feeling is never ending.

You are'nt rude, it's me complaining for the all time wait and support.

@Varthall

This is not a Cola advert but: Can't beat the feeling!
Actually it was a demo in a disk times back.

Thank You for the 4,1 investigating, that was the game I tried, hopefully not many incompabilities with the 4,0-4,1-4,xx,. When winter arrives here and the outer works have been done and my hobby-car is inside safely I'll try to make the 4 years work back with the XE again and even better. Just waiting as a stupid user and meanwhile cursing/seeing the wonder functions of today's offerings. A bit must for for work too, before we had only Amiga but as allways it really helps with winblows and many times I stil ask why can't You do it like this or that? Why does it "think" so much? That's allways a laugh for an Amigan.

Edit: Realistically with the millions of virus,troijan,spam,spyware,adware etc. the virii programs have to "think" even with payed versions and firewalls but for half an hour when something really urgent should be done when a customer is waiting... It really shocked me some time back how an -97 Amiga HD still is "faster" in my Amiga than in a few years old trrrrrrt trrrrrt trrrrt -winmachine. Clean it up, and trrrrrt. Never cleaned the Amiga hd.

Wish I knew and really had time to compile, only seem to have time to complain..
Now to work, bye.

Last edited by PR on 23-Oct-2008 at 07:18 AM.

@PR

Quote:

PR wrote: @Hans In DP there are no good screen selections as I think? (Tip for EA;) The pc's DP 2 or whatever is horrible. It would be really nice to go to animations again and continue my work for my company but then steps in the printing...

IIRC, in the monitor tooltypes you can specify FAKENATIVE=Yes and it will create fake Amiga chipset modes that may help out some older programs.

Quote:

Oh, SBLive! is the soundcard and it should work but maybe me messing something up. X-Moto freezes immediately. AmiUpdate did that too before. Maybe I'll try it again as it worked before as a start but then. Good ideas. Thank You "verymany" - as we say here.

That's the same card that I have. It should work. So you tried one game, and then gave up? Try some of the myriads of others on os4depot. X-Moto and rrootage have known issues with the public beta on the OS4.1 disk.

You just need to take the time to try things out. Be adventurous.

Hans

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@PR

Quote:

No DeluxePaint or Oktalyzer type trackers?

I think DeluxePaint need some hacks to work, don t remember. You should install Personal Paint it does many things in the same way DPaint does.

If you really need DeluxePaint then install EUAE, any classic software that does not work whit OS4.x will work under EUAE.
I know there is lot of tracker programs on OS4Depot, don t know way you are complain about that.
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my family are really frustrated

Amiga is probably not the right computer for your family, get Mac for your kids and wife, AmigaOS is not ready for mass market of 2008, its going to take time produce the software needed so that Amiga can be compete again.

Your kids probably love EUAE and classic Amiga games.

I don t think you will be able to satisfy your wife s needs whit AmigaOS, if that s Internet backing, flash, java and stuff like that your out of luck, its going to take years to get what MacOS and Windows have to day, OWB does show some signs of becoming a great browser but is not there yet.
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So how do You have fun with Your new OS4,1?

This what I like to do:
+Software development GCC.
+OS4Depot test stuff.
+Music
+Fims (Mplayer/DVplayer)

Office:
+ Turbo Calc
+ Presentation (Hollywood, pointrider)

GFX:
+ Paint (Personal Paint,TVPaint or FxPaint)
+ View Images (Visio,WarpView,PicShow,Cyberview,)

Music:
+ TuneNet (almost all Audio formats)
+ AmiPonder
+ Audio Evolution
+ AmigaAMP
+ Tracker (MilkyTracker, ProTracker)
+ Encode mp3 (Bladeenc)

Internet:
+ IBrowse2.4
+ OWB
+ IRC (WookieChat)
+ E-mail (SimpleMail or YAM)
+ FTP client (pFTP or AmiFTP)

Games:
+ Quake 3 / Quake 2 / Quake 1 / Doom
+ Frozen-bubbles
+ Heretic
+ Myst
+ Earth2140
+ Wesnoth
+ Powermanga
+ EUAE lots of classic games to run on that.

FileSystem:
+ File manager (Dopus,diskmaster or filemaster)
+ BrunCD's (MakeCD,FryingPan or AmiDVD)

Legacy programs and games use:
+ EUAE
+ Mac Emulator.
+ C64 Emulator
+ PS1 emulator.

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http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=27187&forum=33#460200

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I use it for most stuff like with the ages of when i had a4000. Only i have more power and more modern version of amigaos. I use it mostly for internet like browsing, chatting, ftp, torrent etc. Use arteffect/pfpaint for gfx when i need to update my page with gfx. Arteffect is little buggy but it does what i need. I hope there will come a update.
For the music i use hd-rec but i got very lazy and produce 1 tune / year ;(
I do my homepage with notepad. OWB to check pages that dont work on Ibrowse like facebook for my contacts and myspace for my music stuff.

So whats fun ? Dunno really. Most fun is checking os4depot, betatest new software, both native and emulated. Good to help people to make stable and more richer software. I sometimes play Quake3 with my pc friends. Most i chat with wookie and sabremsn.

Tunenet is on when im @keyboard :D

Problem is we dont have much games for the people that like gaming. We dont have much updated software like gfx packages, music programs etc. Its getting boring. However i know at least one is on work but it takes months/years for relese. I often watch trailers and clips from youtube using getvideo+ibrowse. And ofcourse mplayer. There is for sure apps i forgot to mentation but see it like this. My A1+OS4.1 is main computer. I have a 533mhz pc but its taking dust under my sofa. Use it only for updating my hardware synthesizers and thats maybe 1-3 times/year.

Since OWB came i dont even use debian linux anymore. I disconnected my linux harddisk. With os4.1 come the joy of transparent windows which made my OS look even more pretty and more alive. And ofcourse all stuff under the hood like 64bit dos etc. Now i just wait for the next SDK so that people like antique can update his software to use large files.

For looking at movies & sometimes playing old emulated games/platforms i use my old xbox. Later on i replace it with ps3. Then ill probably do some game'ing again. Since i replaced my ps2 with xbox i almost never played. Only Mashed and Halo1 in the beginning.

Thats all from me (i think)

EDIT: Whats more fun with other platforms ? Alot of more apps :) But when i see what my friends does is playing Counterstrike or WOW. The ones that dont play wow have time for looking at movies. They are stuck in a loop. Some friends bought great music HW and they still havent touched them as CS/WOW is taking all their time anyway. So its up to the user how to have fun with their computer. I know we would have more fun with apps like on windows and mac but we dont have them. We use what we have :D But there is also people that have both platforms so they enjoy them all. Maybe you should ask them the question.... why do they use new amigas and whats fun ? :)

Last edited by Kicko on 23-Oct-2008 at 05:03 PM.

Seen this?

@Hans

Oh forgot the monitor tooltypes. The SBLive should work as before. Tried all that can be done in a half an hour. Me giving up? Don't be ridiculous. Just waxed my new pride and the well, avatar;)

@NutsAboutAmiga

Thank You very much from a troghouth information whit lot of all known stuff. PPaint really is the alternative as used it for years now.

But:

Quate: Amiga is probably not the right computer for your family, get Mac for your kids and wife.

Thanks for the tip! I'll wake up my girlfriend immediately and propose her to marry me know and make some kids at the same time.

See Ya. And Please read or do not at all. Anyways Amiga is about fun. My English isn't either native as I suppose there is the same situation..

Last edited by PR on 23-Oct-2008 at 09:35 PM.

@Kicko & all by my respect.

What is fun really about Amiga?

Conclusion: You! and privacy as the annoying family can't call for free all the time;)

Thank You and I won't go away, oh, I saw that and did this too Thank You. Now trying to learn the new Casio Databank watch that came from the USA today delivered to the door, electric Roland drums and new headphones. aand then off to sleep. I'll try the SB-Card more but funnily heard the "jingle" from motmomorormhahta and immediately made it silent. Well the new install does a lot of work but I'm happy also to get rid of old incompabilities. Will try all new and old suggestions. Waiting for TA.

Got Ya, didn't I.

Last edited by PR on 23-Oct-2008 at 09:53 PM.
Last edited by PR on 23-Oct-2008 at 09:49 PM.

What is fun ?

- Use a different system, that is not Windows, not Linux, not MacOS (even if I also use them without fun and I am aware of their capabilities)
- Use a system that you understand, that is simple and efficient
- Program a cool system, with the opportunity to work with other developpers (hey, sqlite 3.6.1 is out ! )
- Go without any complex to a meeting dedicated to free software with our closed-source OS (it was the last week-end, hey K-L !) and see their reactions. (they were also very impressed to see that Amiga systems were still alive and so much advanced)
- Feel familiar with your computer