http://www.avaaz.org/en/eu_save_the_internet_spread/?tta


I usually don't do petitions myself, but this one feels really important.

The only thing that seems to be able to stop this ACTA deal, that was censored even when presented to national politicians earlier, seems to be the EU-parliament.
For Internet, the worst case scenario is that this can mean the end of the Internet as we know it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Counterfeiting_Trade_Agreement

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signed!.

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signed, may this stupidity get flushed along with the US SOPA and PIPA debacles...

why oh why do any political people ever consider this crap to begin with???

signed..

Signed as always. Hope it gets the same momentum behind it as the SOPA and PIPA campaigns.

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Watch this for more info about SOPA very interesting, don't know how it applies to ACTA but i suspect that the goal is the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9h2dF-IsH0I

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Signed as well, too much of this over draconian powers being proposed of late.

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already singend :)

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Looks like we'll be back to FishDisks then, although as a silver lining it could spur on the resurgence of computer user groups

Signed, on the basis that any international agreement with such wide-ranging consequences for the day-to-day lives of ordinary people should be put to public scrutiny, not done in secret behind closed doors.

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@tomazkid

Signed this, but even if it fails to stop ACTA, the companies and politicians that
have pushed for this undemocratic legislation are going to find themselves
under intense scrutiny, as did some of the supporters of SOPA, politicans whose
own websites were carrying copyrighted images without permission.

Draby

They are just making it ever easier for teh criminal to make money by offering the customer what the profiteers dont want them to have. The technology to totally bypass the hardware landline and optical fibre internet is already being sold, with the profiteers only occasionally remembering to lobby for artificial restrictions on it use, crippling its performance and capabilites. . As speeds get higher, it will get less possible for the restrictions to be in place in order for the devices to work at all.

Anyone for fully encrypted P2P distributed open source hardware Wifi servers? No centralised server, no direct links, no complete coherent blocks of data, no central authority. So secure that anything else the goverment wants to use will be less so.

There hasnt been anything mentined about 3D printers yeat, if they continue like this, taking another ten years to pass laws and restrictions, it will be far too late. The printers will be able to print every part of themselves, and trying to restrict teh electronics to prevent printing will just give the criminals an open market in hacked and replacement chips, leading to security compromises just like data today.

Intresting times ahead, most certainly.

(Insane Ramble)
If I have no contract with someone who has created an origional something for their own satifaction, how can they complain when I spend my time, effort and money making a duplication, when they cant or wont, when I then dont turn round and demand fees for advertising their product in return?

Especially when I then turn round and agree to purchase that origional item for an agreed on recompense in time and effort on both parties?

Equality is a biatch?
(//Insane Ramble)

Sorry. 8( No leeway for poor people. 8(

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Signed in solidarity to EU citizens
Have been big fun of Kopyright Liberation Front back in 90s

While copyright seems like fair idea where copyright holders get their share,
in practice it is not like that. Some keep high prices just for profit (e.g. Microsoft sells Windows XP just for 5 or 10 euros less then Windows 7 Starter: if WinXPSP3 was made 5 to 10 euros cost, a lot of computers in 3rd world could afford original software and a lot of hardware could be still used to run 32 bit apps) or the copyright is based on idea theft registered (e.g. Disney and the world farytales)

Also, instead of removing just the copyright infridgement users or portions of websites, they decided to move and proscute the whole (example Megaupload that also had legal files is completely down and there is no substitute free service for sharing files bigger then attachment size)

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signed

@RodTerl

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(Insane Ramble) If I have no contract with someone who has created an origional something for their own satifaction, how can they complain when I spend my time, effort and money making a duplication, when they cant or wont, when I then dont turn round and demand fees for advertising their product in return? Especially when I then turn round and agree to purchase that origional item for an agreed on recompense in time and effort on both parties? Equality is a biatch? (//Insane Ramble)

If you make a copy of my CD and give to a friend who likes it and then comes to gig or maybe buys one of my others, then yes you have done me a favour, noone really objects to that.

On the other hand if you make copies of my entire repertoire and then sell them to customers who might otherwise buy them from me, then I starve, even if you give them copies for free I still get no income.

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Sorry. 8( No leeway for poor people. 8(

Most creative are 'poor' there very few are millioare musicians who can afford to give thier next album away, and manyt peoples jobs rely on creative industries.

ACTA is bad not because its against copyright infingement an stuff but because it gives excessive ill thought out powers to unelected and elected officials that are way beyond what is needed to fight "piracy"

The best way to fight bills like ACTA is to remove the excuse for them by not pirating stuff, but buy your own copy, only share it with you imediate and real friends don;t just fileshare it etc.

Even then ofcousre we must be vigilant as the facsist will find another excuse perhaps ....

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Last part of a mail i got from my local Euro MP regarding ACTA

May I take the opportunity to point out that the European Parliament is
only an amending chamber. The real power lays in the non-elected
European Commission. While I encourage you to check the votes on the
22nd June don't be fooled by the results. Indeed if the MEPs vote
against ACTA, there is no doubt the Commission will find another way of
imposing its will. If it is not intellectual property they invoke to
justify the surveillance of our internet use it will be paedophilia or
fight against drug or God knows what. The road to hell is paved with
good intentions.




:(

@J'Bar

Yes, the European commision has acted very much in favour of suppressing democracy the last years.
Hungary is the latest example of what happens if you don't go the way Bryssels wants a country to go.
And not to be forgotten, who is in charge in Greece and Italy these days?
Those person were not elected.

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Hungary is the latest example of what happens if you don't go the way Bryssels wants a country to go. And not to be forgotten, who is in charge in Greece and Italy these days? Those person were not elected.

Hmmm ... wouldn`t take right wing Jobbik influenced conservative gouvernement as bright examples of democracy either. Sadly, crisis destroys social democracy and left winged options and adds popularity of "radical" options like right winged ones. Hungary is good lesson in this.

In cases of Italy and Germany having financial advisor is kind of IMF "We control your public policies" approach where any investement in social capital (education, health, social services) is seen as "not allowed expense". That is hardly way to ever go forward, while you are forced to allow all kind of imported goods that destroy your own production (=no export, import dependencies) or just those development projects you draw more IMF money for.
With my best wishes to people of Spain, Greenland, Italy and Greece to recover, that is "AmigaOS" kind of deep living sand ... Not that my country is doing much better with constant loans from IMF/WB.

Its also far serious to me how nature of countries production is changed over time:
e.g. ex food production countries becoming food importers etc. etc. Seems like member roles have already been divided.

Life and Debt is very nice documentary that shows how it destroyed fragile Jamaica to really poor society
in debt, it shouldn`t be. Far poorer then us in Europe. Sadly, seems no lesson taken.

Cheap imports look so nice, until you figure out you produce nothing anymore for your own market or exports but cheap raw materials (=no employment other then shrinking services and public administration sectors).

Sadly, this kind of 40-50% youth unemployment rates used to stand for tragic post isolation post war societies in transition like Serbia, but now its reality for more and more socities in Europe.

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Already signed

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@tomazkid

Signed, but petition is not enough. People should enforce it on governments. In Poland we will take the streets again on 3rd February afternoon.

This was the last week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fbw-8hEmF90 - Poznań
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NqWyBOxA3Y - Cracow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqRCtBARk74 - Warsaw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMFh4QGlHIA - Białystok

And much more. European Commision must understand: They will burn in the fire they have ignited.

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