Hi all,

I've got nowhere else to go, so I'll have to ask here

I bought a bluray disc writer for my PC, but the bloody thing refuses to write.
I tried Nero 11, IMGburn and Cyberlink BD solution (never heard of it, but it came with the writer)

I just cant write a BD

Nero gives a logical drive error, the others just dont finish the burn. And give all kinds of errors like 'data error'

It's a SATA drive connected to the onboard ports of my PC where also my HD is connected.
I exchanged cables and ports with no result.

I also return the first drive 'cause I thought it was faulty.

I also have a ATA DVD writer wich works fine using Nero.

Could it be that my Athlon 64 isnt powerfull enough ?

Any ideas ?

Thanks

Martin

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@Metalheart

Windows XP DOES NOT support Blue Ray out of box.

Seems this kind of driver is needed. but please read more about it,
I don`t have BD, can`t test it at all
http://xpdrivers.com/cd-dvd-blueray/_1_6.cfm

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@Metalheart

Any ideas ?
Yes, video hardware. A HD graphic card and monitor for starters ; more memory ; more CPU to run it all; then, the Blu-Ray RW. The Windows XP hardware is way out of date for the blueray device. Throw away your XP!...sorry...HDMI is the new interface.

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Thanks, but you guys seem to think I want to play bluray movies, I dont !
Just want to be able to write bluray data disc for backup purposes.

Cheers

Martin

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@Metalheart

burn it on OS4 ?

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Realy ? How ?

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I'm pretty sure i used my BD writer on XP. You could try on another SATA port/controller or perhaps try burning using Ubuntu live cd (that would require another optical reader though) and see if that works.

Also try to update the firmware on BD writer if you haven't done that already.

Last edited by fryguy on 01-Feb-2012 at 11:37 AM.

@fryguy

ubuntu live CD ? does that have burning capabilities ?

I do have another drive atached, a DVD writer.

Can I download it somewhere ?

It's the second writer I tried, different brands....

Any change that Fryingpan would work on a bluray writer ?

Last edited by Metalheart on 01-Feb-2012 at 11:44 AM.
Last edited by Metalheart on 01-Feb-2012 at 11:39 AM.

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@Snuffy

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Snuffy wrote: @Metalheart Yes, video hardware. A HD graphic card and monitor for starters ; more memory ; more CPU to run it all; then, the Blu-Ray RW. The Windows XP hardware is way out of date for the blueray device. Throw away your XP!...sorry...HDMI is the new interface.

Ummm... Windows XP hardware? That's news to me... I have an XP machine with HDMI out on it, 4GB RAM and a dual-core 3GHz CPU, and besides, the graphics mode I use over VGA actaully shoves more pixels down the cable than full HD.

Anyway, the point is that XP itself might be outdated, but he's not looking to watch 1080p video, just get data on and off BDs. Tha's got nothing to do with video hardware, and will surely come down to simply a driver issue - be it for the drive itself or for the SATA controller.

@Metalheart
www.ubuntu.com will let you download an ISO which you can boot from. I've never used it for burning, but it's worth a go...

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@Metalheart

I gotta admit i never tried burning a BD from Ubuntu but it has support for DVD writing so it might support BD too.

http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-i386.iso

Get that one and burn to a cd and boot from. (Or find i mirror closer to you).

@Metalheart

use either internal system or amiDVD .

i don't have a bluray RW so i don't know if it would work but its worth a try.

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@Metalheart

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Thanks, but you guys seem to think I want to play bluray movies, I dont ! Just want to be able to write bluray data disc for backup purposes. Cheers Martin

Understand that, but to best of my limited knowledge that cant test, even Nero version support BD drive, reason for failure itself might be
a) purely burning software, there are other people complaining on Nero
Try NERO BD FAQ
http://www.nero.com/eng/support-faq.html?s=sub&t=Blu-ray

Similar user solved problem by changin burning app
http://forums.techarena.in/windows-software/1319128.htm
http://wesleytech.com/burn-blu-rays-a-how-to-guide-for-burning-bd-r-discs/713/
http://www.cyberlink.com/products/power2go/overview_en_US.html?&r=1
http://cyberst0rm.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-to-burn-blu-ray-discs.html

You can try lastest Nero, maybe support improved

b) purely OS that needs some update to support it, Nero alone might not be enough, even you talk about data, not video. BD discs were not existing or widespread in time of XP even SP3.

c) Hardware thing like that BD drive needs firmware support to use certain media. Check the manufacturer support page and flush it to latest. Helped a lot with burning DVDs on various dics on DVD-R

Since BD medias are quite expensive, would first try all 3 (flash drive if possible, update OS if possible, try finding more specalized and tested app) before doing it again. If it works from other app after would again try doing it with Nero.

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@Metalheart

I cant tell you why (I dont know), but I too had problems burning BluRay discs on XP (sp3+some updates, but not all). I can however watch bluray movies fine, and burn both cds and dvds with the drive. I have a VM set up with Vista on the same machine though, and that does allow me to burn bluray discs.

Its definately possible to burn bluray discs on XP, but thee's a piece to the "puzzle" that Im missing.

Oh, slightly off topic, but your machine is more than enough to watch 1080p videos contrary to what someone has suggested. Heck even an ATOM can using the intergrated graphics core using less than 50% cpu usage. The vast majority of it is done in gpu hardware decoding. Something that its unlikely any amiga os based systems will get for quite some time, which is why only aros is capable of watching 1080p video properly.

I'll try to update my Windows SATA and DVD/Bluray drivers.

Then I might try that Ubuntu CD

If that doesnt work, I'll get a new SATA PCI card

Then I'll try to build another PC from parts I have laying around (core2 board)

Could I be that the writer has troubles with the SATA HD on the other SATA port ?

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@Metalheart

Assuming we're encountering the same issue the problem is definately software and not hardware related.
Im running a corei7-2600k@4.6ghz machine with WinXP, and I still havent been able to burn bluray discs natively.
Running Windows Vista inside a virtual machine on top of WinXP and burning blurays there though works fine, and XP is hosting it (ergo there's dependencies that it requires that are met on XP, but there's a higher level software requirement that isnt).

I'll be interested to hear how you go though, you might uncover something that is useful to me too (although for now Im happy with my workaround).

@Metalheart

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Metalheart wrote: I'll try to update my Windows SATA and DVD/Bluray drivers. Then I might try that Ubuntu CD If that doesnt work, I'll get a new SATA PCI card Then I'll try to build another PC from parts I have laying around (core2 board) Could I be that the writer has troubles with the SATA HD on the other SATA port ?

As explained many times in this thread, problem isn't your hardware... It's XP. Windows XP doesn't support UDF2.5 which is used by Blurays so you are out of luck unless you use hack like this.

@Rose

I installed toshiba udf2.5 driver, still got the same troubles though...

Isn't that driver for reading only ?

Als tried to update windows drivers using Drivermagic, found several out of dat drivers, but no IDE/CD/DVD/BluRay/SATA stuff

Martin

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@Metalheart

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Metalheart wrote: @Rose I installed toshiba udf2.5 driver, still got the same troubles though... Isn't that driver for reading only ? Als tried to update windows drivers using Drivermagic, found several out of dat drivers, but no IDE/CD/DVD/BluRay/SATA stuff Martin

Should work with it. Try installing Imgburn which is free lightweight burning software if it recognices your drive correctly.

edit. Seems like you have tried it allready but try to uninstall/reinstall now since you have UDF2.5 now installed.

edit 2. Seems like version released on 4th feb has improved support for blueray in XP.

Last edited by Rose on 05-Feb-2012 at 05:44 PM.
Last edited by Rose on 05-Feb-2012 at 05:42 PM.

@Rose

The bluray drive was already recognised by NERO and Imageburn, but WinExplorer seems to see it as a CD drive..

I'll look into the new img burn later...

hmmm, seems the latest version seems to be released on the 4th of october 2011.... (IMGburn.com)

Thanks

edit: now WinExplorer says 'DVD-RAM drive" So I guess thats progress.....

Last edited by Metalheart on 05-Feb-2012 at 07:02 PM.
Last edited by Metalheart on 05-Feb-2012 at 06:36 PM.

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ok, installed the october 2011 version of IMGBurn, tying to burn a bluray (with some data about 3 Gb)

It recognised faulty disks and empty ones.

Now it is still doing 'Lead in' for about 11 minutes.... That cant be good.
Expecting it to fail....

So that will be for about 30 Euros on BD R disc right now, and no result....

Last edited by Metalheart on 05-Feb-2012 at 07:43 PM.
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