I've heard a rumour that Amiga inc are not happy with Eyetech for releasing the uA1c - does anyone know anything about this?

Why would Amiga not be happy?

Also - thinking about it, the whole KMOS situation is very fishy. It wouldnt surprise me in the slightest if Amiga inc had gone into administration and KMOS came along to bail them out.

I mean - KMOS buy Amiga OS. Dont really do anything with it. They buy some network company which they later sell... why? Why buy it to not use it - unless its to act as a smoke screen.

They then buy Amiga up lock stock and barrel and concentrate on DE/AA so what was the point in buying Amiga OS in the first place.. unless maybe they thought they were buying AA/DE ?

Also If you check the email replies from people in Amiga inc they point to home email accounts..

The recent web site "update" looks crap. Do they have any money? whats it all about.. too many unanswered questions.

@Bobsonsirjonny

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Amiga inc are not happy with Eyetech for releasing the uA1c

that would certainly go towards helping to explain the wall of silence from Yorkshire !!



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But WHY Would A.Inc not be happy about another product released and furthuring the Amiga platform ??

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They buy some network company which they later sell... why?

You mean CNetwork? They never bought it, thus they never sold it.

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@opi

Capacity Networks I think they were called. I was sure they bought them? Didn't they say they bought them in some press release?

@Bobsonsirjonny

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Didn't they say they bought them in some press release?

Garry later confirmed they never owned them at any point.

Whutsup Bobson? You sound like you are suffering from FUD withdrawals.

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@DruidPoet

Just trying to get to the bottom of things. I get told lots of things - so I stick around. Some come true, many do not.


Just want the truth. Rumour I heard was that Amiga inc were being arses.

Another rumour I heard was that Amiga OS was sold to Itec / KMOS... yet it wasnt actually owned by amiga inc at the time to sell it - hence it took a whole year before the sale was made public as there was a lot of crap behind the scenes which needed to be sorted.

I also heard that Mozilla has been ported but its sitting on a shelf to stop the MOS crowd from having it...

So many GAMES!! WHY!!

Oh yeah - heard a rumour about a week ago that MAI are gonna be sued by some company over the Articia P or something.

@Bobsonsirjonny

And where do you get those crazy untrue rumours from? PC-users who hate Amiga? I have seen NOTHING from ANY sites stating these rumours! I think you have been twisted with a lot of lies from people who don't really know anything about the Amiga, neither following its' development carefully...

Come back when you got the proves...

And...happyness comes first. I gonna say something that Anur Humlesnurr in Harry Potter 3 said...He said something like this:

"Happyness can be found, even in the darkest times, if you only remember to turn on the light.."

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@Bobsonsirjonny

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Just want the truth. Rumour I heard was that Amiga inc were being arses. So many GAMES!! WHY!!

No games... Just rumours... FUD...

What has changed between the FUD of years past and the FUD of today. Why believe now when you didn't then?

Sounds tom me like you just aren't happy right now and want things to blame.
Sorry for the public phsyco analist on you. But I've noticed a trend.

I'll say no more other than to say happyness comes first. Get it... Then come back.


And stop bloody listening to rumours!

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@Bobsonsirjonny

The quick summary is more or less as you have stated. AInc. look disinterested and it still (to me in my humble insignificant opinion) looks like AInc. are trying to get something back from the whole escapade with the least possible investment - hence the terrible site and complete lack of advertising. Hyperion are still heroically working away but with a long term strategy that we are not yet privy too. Where does that leave the ‘real’ desktop OS4-based Amiga? Still an interesting obscure OS still waiting to enter the limelight again. Unless something big happens it might be waiting a very long time...

Enjoy your Mac.

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Another one who has become twisted by the dark side then. Pity, as who many may listen to lies and betrayals. It's not really true what you say about the new Amiga Inc owned by KMOS. They are very dedicated to push the AmigaOS forward. Hyperion is the one with the right to continue the development of the AmigaOS, Eyetech continues to have the right to develop AmigaOne, with license to a Taiwan manufacturer, MAI is still the one to provide different PPC-controllers and motherboard designs that form the AmigaOne design. Amiga Inc has stated they will consentrate on the AmigaDE-technology using Tao Groups' Intent...

As with Bobson, i suggest you better come up with the truth and being able to prove it rather than believing in lies....

Get out of the dark. Come back to the light, my dear friend...

It's going to be up to the Amiga community (and its support to the A1 partners and your local Amiga dealer) to keep the Amiga desktop alive and well. If Amiga Inc. sees an opportunity that the desktop market is worth the trouble, then they'd probably change strategies. It's up to the Amiga community to help promote the Amiga platform by investing into the platform you love (buying Amiga products) and carry a positive attitude while preaching the gospel to would be (new) Amiga users.

And when you're on discussion forums (beyond AW.net, etc...) talk about Amiga like it's a part of the norm. Yeah, people will be like; Amiga? Does that computer still exist?? Others will be like, man was that my favorite computer of all time.

It's up to each and every one of us to help carry the torch.

Rock on!

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I think this csaa post pretty much sums it up:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.sys.amiga.advocacy/msg/a497d7f1d5258d65?hl=en

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@Helgis

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Pity, as who many may listen to lies and betrayals. It's not really true what you say about the new Amiga Inc owned by KMOS.

Like ,,we own CN'' stuff? Like ,,fake'' cards.

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They are very dedicated to push the AmigaOS forward.

Yes. Sure they are. (Face it: there's only one company in this crowd that's dedicated to work on AmigaOS. And it's Hyperion. People at Amiga INC has no idea what AmigaOS is, nor they care. They just want to sell some stuff under Amiga lable. End of story.)

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Eyetech continues to have the right to develop AmigaOne

Yes, AmigaOne owner still wonder how they could come up with such quality. And the Linux market in on knees. Who cares for 2.6.

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AmigaDE-technology using Tao Groups' Intent...

It's AmigaAnywhere now, isn't it? Another rebranded products that add almost nothing to the orginal one.

OK, I don't want to start a flame here. I see both MorphOS and AmigaOS as a fine Hobby-OSes. Forget the AmigaINC, they will not help us, *migaOS users.

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@opi

Whatever you may think, why do you feel so angry about it? It doesn't affect the AmigaOS development done by Hyperion. Garry Hare, the new CEO of Amiga Inc, is actually very happy that Hyperion is the one to continue the development of AmigaOS, Eyetech to continue with the AmigaOne-development and still working along with MAI to get the best PPC-controllers. Garry Hare said that Amiga Inc will only consentrate on the AmigaDE-technology (that's AmigaAnywhere to you)...

So then, what is the problem? I don't see a problem here...and i doubt anybody else does see a problem with all these...

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Helgis wrote: @opi Whatever you may think, why do you feel so angry about it?

Perhaps in Opi's opinion people are being taken for a ride, and he doesn't feel that is right?


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Helgis wrote: It doesn't affect the AmigaOS development done by Hyperion.

True. And that development can continue up to what point, exactly?

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Helgis wrote: Garry Hare, the new CEO of Amiga Inc, is actually very happy that Hyperion is the one to continue the development of AmigaOS,

Happy, unhappy - at this point it doesn't look like Garry cares one way or another what happens with Hyperion and OS4. If he did care, then why doesn't he continue to fund OS4 development?

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Helgis wrote: Eyetech to continue with the AmigaOne-development and still working along with MAI to get the best PPC-controllers.

If OS4 wasn't arbitrarily locked down to Eyetech, would you really still buy from Eyetech? Do you really feel they have a quality product at a reasonable price?


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Helgis wrote: Garry Hare said that Amiga Inc will only consentrate on the AmigaDE-technology (that's AmigaAnywhere to you)...

This is beneficial to the future of OS4 in what way?


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Helgis wrote: So then, what is the problem? I don't see a problem here...and i doubt anybody else does see a problem with all these...

Here's a hypothetical situation for you. A capitalistic opportunist sees a chance to make a money grab by purchasing, completing and selling a product that has been floundering for several years in order to generate a quick return so he can invest in his goal of creating his 'dream OS'. So he sets up a "company" as an investment front, but finds out from his CONTRACTOR that the product he's trying to sell needs a lot more work than he realized. In order to generate returns within a reasonable timeframe be makes arrangements with a second company which HAS a functional product to arbitrarily lock down the first product to the second product, thus generating returns immediately. Mix, shake, wait ten months. Once his cash goal has been reached, he cuts ties with the first two companies and invests everything into a third company which just happens to have a product more in line with his goal of producing his 'dream OS'. Which leaves the first two companies where, exactly?

If you don't see a problem with this, then I have a perpetual motion machine you might be interested in buying.

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@jorkany

Looks like i have to explain carefully to you...

1. Hyperion owns the right to develop the AmigaOS. Amiga Inc has nothing to do with it. They can provide ideas, but Hyperion is the one to decide what AmigaOS will be like. The way i therefore see it is that neither Amiga Inc or Garry Hare have anything right to say against that...

2. AmigaDE is the thing that is going to lead AmigaOS into version 5. The melting of the AmigaOS and AmigaDE-technology. The point is that Tao Groups' Intent technology will allow AmigaOS at the end, to run on any hardware-independent platforms, to not mention cellphones and game consoles. Like stated hundred of times. Amiga Inc is only commited to further develop the AmigaDE. They have nothing to do with neither AmigaOS or the AmigaOne, but they want them to be pushed into the future, but that is up to Eyetech and Hyperion. Eyetech to push the AmigaOne forward, and Hyperion to push the AmigaOS forward. They are all doing a very remarkable job, and they should be respected and honoured for that. They is no point in blaming the whole world just because of inpatience...

There is nothing more to say other than that i suggest you read Amiga-stuffs very carefully before shouting out loud about your dismisses here...

I for once don't see a problem to keep staying to the Amiga. I have an AmigaOne that i am very happy about, although now at repair due to a burnt CPU, but other than that i am very happy and the AmigaOS 4 has been shaping up very nicely. If you are so disappointed, then why are you here? You don't really sound like an Amiga-fan. More like a PC-fan who hates the Amiga...

Come back when you have calmed your anger...

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@Bobsonsirjonny

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Oh yeah - heard a rumour about a week ago that MAI are gonna be sued by some company over the Articia P or something.

ahhhh Bobson sounds like you have too much time on your hands. Too many rumours mate!

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Seems the news is out

http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?view=1114859106&category=news&start=1&25

http://www.flyingmice.com/cgi-bin/squidcgi/mbthread.pl/amiga/expand/111760

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