Hi

Some of you may be aware of my website dedicated to Amiga Commodore Retro. The site resides on a Lycos webserver, and that is where the problems start. A few months ago I started getting reports that folk couldn`t view the larger images from my site, that they timed out. Consequently I checked myself, and true enough when using an old browser ( even Win98 ) and a dial up connection, the images timed out and were not readable. Now, I have been banging Lycos over the head over this one and they are not helping... This was there last response ( Amiga folk do not get insulted please )

[ update... LYCOS RESPONSE 21st December 2005 ]

LYCOS>: We do not think this is really a Lycos problem.
The people visiting your site are probably using old machines.

[ scuzz - A site dedicated to retro computers ]

LYCOS>: If you can not make the pictures small enough so it
works with dial-up too that's really a issue we can not resolve.

[ scuzz - 135K is really big isn`t it ]

LYCOS>: If your site is not compliant with old browsers or hardly
used browsers then we have also no affect over this.

[ scuzz - Duh ! How many of us does that exclude ]

LYCOS>:With kind regards

Well if that isn`t insulting I don`t know what is

Consequently I have had to put a LYCOS Health Warning on my site..

For those using a dial-up connection to view these pages, and are using Win98, Amiga or Dreamcast.... I would advise that you may have problems uploading images. This is out of my control and the responsibility of LYCOS who provide my webspace. They have failed to deal with the problem and refuse to accept that the problem exists. Could I ask that if you visit the site and encounter such problems, mail me. Or better complain to LYCOS.

Sadly the new trends in broadband and XP leave us retro users cold, and folk like LYCOS appear not to care. I am in the process of setting up a mirror so hopefully we can get past this situation soon

Today I created yet another test page and I would ask those using older machines and dial-up to see what you get and let me know. I kinda hope its something I`m doing so I can rectify this. If not the site will have to move. I will not be driven out by broadband and new machines, sorry. Pretty bloody minded about that.

http://www.scuzz.org.uk/amiga/a200_154101.html

I've even tried PNG and GIF. Thing is these pages can be viewed on other pages that I have created not on the Lycos webserver.

[ the whole site ]

http://www.scuzz.org.uk/amiga/a_amiga_inframe.htm

What do you think ? I am quite prepared to accept fault. And am ready to eat the old humble pie if it turns out I am doing something wrong. And I certainly am not in the business of badmouthing Lycos. But if this is an issue of broadband and old browsers then it affects my beloved Amiga... And if this becomes the standard then older Amigas and retro computers will be excluded from the web. Hope not.

scuzz

@scuzz

It works ok here but i am on 2mb adsl.

I don't know what kind of deal Lycos are giving you but Mike Parker @ godfreys hosts my site for a very good deal.

Why don't you ask him what sort of deal he can do for you ?

contact

http://www.godfreys-online.co.uk

or PM him on here (or my site) where he is known as A1200

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@scuzz

Regarding your test page:
I use Micro A1-C with serial dialup from the U.S.
The image on the page is corrupt on my end. About 20% of image shows, the balance
is a corruption pattern.

Edit(Added):From your main page the .gif is corrupt on my end (left side menu)

Best Wishes,
#6

Last edited by number6 on 25-Dec-2005 at 06:55 PM.

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@scuzz

Works great on ADSL (1 Meg). I disconnected and redialled using my 56K external modem.

The piccys start to load but in slices. They only get a couple of slices down the pic before the browser says ' Done' (W98SE using Firefox or Internet Explorer).

If you then hit the reload (Refresh) button, you get another couple of slices. Takes 5 or 6 tries to get the full pic.

Hope this helps

PS The site loads OK for me, and the pics have no corruptions

Last edited by OldAmigan on 25-Dec-2005 at 06:58 PM.

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@OldAmigan &
@scuzz

Not here. Upon "refresh" it instantly quits activity in the "network status"
window of AWeb 3.5.07 beta OS4.0 PPC.

I'll switch browsers...

On Voyager 3.2 (registered) the same 20% of the image is shown followed by "empty"
space. Network activity window again shows "empty" -not- stalled. The .gif from
your main page also fails here.

switching browsers again...

On IBrowse 2.3 (demo supplied with OS4 CD) the same 20% of the image is shown.
Network activity tries to "fetch" more data after the initial 20% is loaded.
Network activity then fails/ceases.

Sorry...no more Amiga browsers to test.
Hmmm...Usually with a "damaged" file you can still save the undamaged portion in
Voyager (abort and save). Not with this file. Also, I checked the Voyager cache.
Nothing there related to your .jpg file, only the html and button pics etc.
I don't remember this problem from looking at your website before.

Best Wishes,
#6

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@scuzz

It seems strange this problem. I am not sure why they would put some timeout on downloading images, I am just trying to work out what you would actually do to make that occur.

Anyway, if you want to migrate to Godfreys, give me a shout, I host Amiga related sites, such as Eyetech at preferential rates. You will get all the tools and services you would with the big hosts and more. We have servers in the UK and France.

Oh and the services website is at http://www.godfreys-it.com

Last edited by A1200 on 25-Dec-2005 at 07:04 PM.

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@A1200

Thing is I had the site on BTYahoo and have no problem. Also, another guy uploaded the whole site to his server to check and it works fine there also. It is just Lycos that gives the problem, and only on dial up. I have had so many excuses really. I just think its got something to do with giving the impression they have loads of bandwidth but infact somehow assume that there is going to be a fast download or access speed. The pictures fall over on dial up when bigger than say 100K. The small images load no problem, but on one page I inserted a bigger picture and it fails to load on about the 100K boundary. I also succesfully viewed an image from the web of around 350K and uploaded that to my site. I then viewed the image from my site from another folder and direct to the page source. Suffice to say the page source site ( not with Lycos ) worked fine, but the image from my Lycos site failed. It times out. The remaining image is saved as a bmp, not the jpg. Does that make sense.

Anyway, I'm about to jump ship. Lycos have technical support but no contact for complaints. I need to get info on the domain status and how I can transfer.

Annoying this. I do believe it has wider consequences.

scuzz