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jahc 
Will rv280 support make it into OS4.0 Update4?
Posted on 3-Jan-2006 0:58:28
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Question for Hyperion: Will rv280 support make it into OS4.0 Update4?

The rv280 is the lowest specced Radeon card I can buy brand new (I dont want to buy second hand). And its dirt cheap. I know I wont get the max 3d performance out of this card on my A1, but it will give me higher resolutions and more RAM than my Voodoo3. I'm running out of gfx card RAM with all my screens. I'm hoping I might get a few more fps out of MAME with something newer too.

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hatschi 
Re: Will rv280 support make it into OS4.0 Update4?
Posted on 3-Jan-2006 1:25:29
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@jahc

[20:13:51] Outcast MiMe_OS4> QUESTION: will the radeon drivers be updated for #4 (overlay for example)?

[20:14:30] EntilZha Overlay is still being worked on, but it's not in update 4, sorry
[20:15:09] EntilZha All Radeons from R100 up to R2xx and RV2xx are supported by 3d drivers
[20:15:17] EntilZha All others only 2d at the moment.

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jahc 
Re: Will rv280 support make it into OS4.0 Update4?
Posted on 3-Jan-2006 2:17:03
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@hatschi

**** .. I skimmed the log and only read that partially. I didnt see "ALL" 2xx . Thats excellent news.

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AmigaClyde 
Re: Will rv280 support make it into OS4.0 Update4?
Posted on 3-Jan-2006 2:19:20
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@hatschi

Thanks for the good news.

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kindergip 
Re: Will rv280 support make it into OS4.0 Update4?
Posted on 3-Jan-2006 2:41:02
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@hatschi

[20:14:30] EntilZha Overlay is still being worked on, but it's not in update 4, sorry
[20:15:09] EntilZha All Radeons from R100 up to R2xx and RV2xx are supported by 3d drivers
[20:15:17] EntilZha All others only 2d at the moment.

So now all that has to be decided is what card to get to go with Amy05.

7100, 8500 and 9200pro on the used market all 300MHz models or
the 9250 new in most parts.

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hatschi 
Re: Will rv280 support make it into OS4.0 Update4?
Posted on 3-Jan-2006 10:55:13
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@kindergip

I would probably get a used 8500 or 9100. Despite the lower "number" these are generally faster than the crippled 9250.
I don't care so much about something being new or used in this price-range.

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jiyong 
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Posted on 3-Jan-2006 11:48:47
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@hatschi

I guess all current 9250 cards only support AGP 4x and 8x.
Cards have to support AGP 2x to work properly in the A1.

I would prefer the 9250, if it would be possible, as it can work with passive cooling only.

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zErec 
Re: Will rv280 support make it into OS4.0 Update4?
Posted on 3-Jan-2006 11:56:09
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From: Germany

@ all

So what Radeons can we use on our miggy???

Based on my research you have the following options:

CARD GPU/MHz RAM/MB RAM/BIT RAM/MHz

GPU RV100:
Radeon 7000 PCI 166 Mhz 32 Mb DDR 64 Bits 166 Mhz
Radeon 7000 AGP 183 Mhz 32 Mb DDR 64 Bits 183 Mhz

GPU R100:
Radeon LE/SE 148 Mhz 32/64 Mb DDR 128 Bits 148 Mhz
Radeon 7200 183 Mhz 32/64 Mb DDR 128 Bits 183 Mhz

GPU RV200:
Radeon 7500 Le 250 Mhz 64 Mb DDR 128 Bits 180 Mhz
AIW Radeon 7500 250 Mhz 64 Mb DDR 128 Bits 166 Mhz
Radeon 7500 290 Mhz 64 Mb DDR 128 Bits 230 Mhz

GPU R200:
Radeon 8500 LE 250 Mhz 64 Mb DDR 128 Bits 250 Mhz
Radeon 8500 275 Mhz 64/128 Mb DDR 128 Bits 275 Mhz
Radeon 9100 250 Mhz 64/128 Mb DDR 128 Bits 250 Mhz

GPU RV250:
Radeon 9000 250 Mhz 64/128 Mb DDR 128 Bits 200 Mhz
Radeon 9000 Pro 275 Mhz 64/128 Mb DDR 128 Bits 275 Mhz

GPU RV280:
Radeon 9200 SE 200 Mhz 64/128 Mb DDR 64 Bits 166 Mhz
AIW Radeon 9200 250 Mhz 64/128 Mb DDR 128 Bits 200 Mhz
Radeon 9200 250 Mhz 64/128 Mb DDR 128 Bits 200 Mhz
Radeon 9200 Pro 275 Mhz 64/128 Mb DDR 128 Bits 275 Mhz
Radeon 9250 240 Mhz 128/256 Mb DDR 128 Bits 200 Mhz

So as you can see from the Hardwareside of view the following cards seem to be
best for AmigaOne SE/XE with R2x0 and RV2x0 3D support under OS4/pre4


Radeon 8500 275 Mhz 64/128 Mb DDR 128 Bits 275 Mhz
Radeon 9000 Pro 275 Mhz 64/128 Mb DDR 128 Bits 275 Mhz
Radeon 9200 Pro 275 Mhz 64/128 Mb DDR 128 Bits 275 Mhz

!!!!!!!!! The Radeon 9200 Pro is a card very very hard 2 find !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Later on the best and last choice) for the AmigaOne SE/XE is the
Radeon 9700/9800 (PRO/XT). 2D works well on those cards. 3D is still missing


Look at the specs of these ones (!!!fantastic!!!):

Radeon 9700 Pro (R300) 325 Mhz 128 Mb DDR 256 Bits 310 Mhz
Rad 9800Pro 128Mb (R350) 380 Mhz 128 Mb DDR 256Bits 340 Mhz
Rad 9800Pro 256Mb (R350) 380 Mhz 256 Mb DDR II 256Bits 350 Mhz
Radeon 9800XT (R360) 412 Mhz 128/256Mb DDR 256 Bits 365 Mhz


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Last edited by zErec on 03-Jan-2006 at 01:05 PM.

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