Mr. Mc Ewen,

take care of what the users really want.

EDIT: Due to several request, a "Yes, sure" option was added by the web Magician DD.

Thank you.

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I don't want an OS that has nothing to do with Amiga.

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Why do we have to choose for one or the other?

I see OS4 as a developer platform and a user platform.

OS5 is for me a launch-platform for selling the apps to a
larger market and to attract a bigger amount of people.

If OS5 is as cool as it sounds i will use both as a user.

Remember, there will be a path from OS4 to OS5.

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@AmigaBlitter

If Amiga Inc create something and put the AMiga name on it then.....

It's an Amiga !!



As to whether I would buy it...

Depends what features it has doesn't it.

I'll still keep my Os4 box anyway.

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@The_Editor

I don't think that the name only made up computer like the old amiga. If you search over the internet, there are PC with the amiga name. Are those really amiga?

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Remember, there will be a path from OS4 to OS5.

Is this really true?

The current OS5, is really derived from OS4?

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@AmigaBlitter

If those Pc's are made by the Genuine Amiga Inc then YES, they are real amigas.

What you..I..or anyone else might think is irrelevant.

The only power we posess is ... buying power, NOT naming power.

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@AmigaBlitter

If it's any good - sure, why not?
If I can run OS4 apps on it - even better.
If both of the above and it works on my existing hardware - definitely.

Until I see it, though, I have more confidence in OS4, and at this point in time I want to run (am running) OS4. So I voted for the OS4 option.

Chris

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@Chris_Y

I'll vote with my wallet.

oops did that a fair while ago.

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@AmigaBlitter

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The current OS5, is really derived from OS4?

What importence has it if it is derived or not.

If it runs OS4 apps native, emulated or re-compiled, that is of
no importence to me as a user. The most importend thing
is that there is a path from OS4 to OS5.

And yes i will use my A1 with OS4 as long as i can.

Hopefully we will hear something more at the Amiwest-show.

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AmigaBlitter wrote: @The_Editor I don't think that the name only made up computer like the old amiga. If you search over the internet, there are PC with the amiga name. Are those really amiga?

No, but then those PC's are running Windows, so why would they be an Amiga?

I feel confident that Amiga Inc know what the virtues of the Amiga OS are, and will strive to keep those features in any new versions. There are, however, fundamental changes that have to be made in the OS for it to evolve and ever be concidered again for mass public consumption. That is a fact that will require complete rewrites of parts of the OS whether anyone likes it or not. This HAS to happen for Amiga to move forward and ever have a chance of people looking at it as a serious choice for today's computing needs.

This isn't the 80's anymore, we need to move forward. I remember people saying the same thing about not wanting to move to PPC because it wouldn't be Amiga anymore.

@Herewegoagain

you are right major re-write of parts of the os are necessary. I hope that we
will be able to keep the look of the workbench and the simple easy to understand
structure of the directories for the os. You know libraries in libs and commands in c
devices in devs etc. ANd the dragging screens. And I hope we don't have another
situation like with os 3.5 and 3.9 were there is a falling out with the previous
developer (Haage & partner) before the next version is deveolped. Let's see
amiga inc keep on good terms with hyperion so the path frm 4 to 5 is smoother.
I'm a stick in the mud. My workbench still has the orange and blue of os 1.2 on
OS4. but nice 3d looking bevels etc to update the look.

painter

@AmigaBlitter

If OS5 does turn out to be better or as good ast OSX whilst running on modern up to date hardware then sure I'm interested. I will still keep OS4 on my A1 if no better hardware comes out for it which at the moment seems to most likely be the case.
As long as it is not Windows then I will finaly be happy.

@The_Editor

sorry.. but if AI makes a calculator w/the Amiga name on it, its not a Amiga.
The REAL Amiga is the classic Amiga line.


@Amigablitter:

As for your question.. its too tough to say.. I for one dont believe any OS5 hype..its all vapour to me ATM.
There is not enough information to go off of to make a decision. If OS4 --> OS5 path does not exist, you can kiss OS4 goodbye. That would be a slap in the face of the Hyperion bros.

The only thing thats not vapour is OS4. Get them Frieden brothers some fscking motherboards!!!!

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@AmigaBlitter

Would an XP user go back to using 3.1?

There have been many changes in the scale and archetecture of computing platforms since AmigaOS3.1 (which OS4 is largely based on) appeared.

The kernel or core of OS5 absolutely should not be based on OS4. The user interface should, however, follow on from OS4. It should also be able to run the OS4 binaries.

All IMHO.

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Geos Rules, is my choice

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Only pansies use GUIs. DOS/UNIX/Mainframe rules mofo!

Seriously, I voted "Better than OS X? Sure!!!" But I know I'll get OS5 when the tree in my backyard grows money.

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@AmigaBlitter

Where are those pc's with the Amiga name on it?. Well i have an Amiga sticker on my pc because with winuae it's a real Amiga!

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I think Hyperion have worked hard and delivered something good, and I think they should be rewarded for their efforts. I think they've earned the right to develop and profit from AmigaOS for the next 10 years.

Amiga Inc has promised much and delivered little and it seems they want to shift the focus away from OS4 to OS5, and release OS5 pretty soon after OS4. I think they should be banned from having anything to do with the Amiga for the next 10 years.

@TheMagicM

You'd better get your screwdriver out and rip all those Chevrolet badges off Daewoos then !!

Or isn't a Company allowed to call it's own brands whatever it wants anymore ?


Lets take it a step further...

Lets say Hyperion BUY AmigaOS et al.

They then own the brand name AmigaOS and can do whatever they want with it. They might well prefer the name HypOS and so decide to rebrand AmigaOS to HypOS.

So whats AmigaOS called now ?

Thats right... HypOS

They own the brand. They could call it FriedOS if they wanted and thats what it would be known as. It wouldn't matter a hoot that you, I or any other Amigan knows it's really AmigaOS.

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