http://backroom.hakia.com/challenge.htm

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Well so far it doesn't look so good. For both Hakia and Google I put in "How do I build a car". The very first result in Google was titled "How to build a car", the first three results in Hakia didn't seem to have anything to do with building a car, though the fourth result was the same as the one in Google.

In fact the first result in Hakia was very strange:
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You are working like a detective! Here is a good lead: State house lawmakers, after lengthy debate, voted to add to the budget, money to build car inspection stations in St.Louis. See this page. ...See the hakia gallery for Cars

wtf?

Anyway, overall Google returned on the first page more results related to building my own car than Hakia, which returned what appear to be just random pages with the words "build" and "car" in the same sentence.

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My search-engine iAMIGA found the amf-62b.adz-disc image with has Detroit on it, when i did a search for "How do I build a car" (without the quotes). It's from this page " http://nthdimension.emuunlim.com/af61-70.htm
But the result looks very strange, because the snippet is grabbed directly from the adz-file. It must belong inside the games GUI.

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DOS г= s pCъ >p%N®эШJЂg "@ й "N®юbCъ N®я JЂg @ h p NupяNudos ...Filtype: Ikke genkendt - Vis som HTML з ¤ з д з @ з @ яяяя t P яяяя t P "яяяя 3 $ y d 4 $ n я 4 > яя яяYES~NO~CONFIRM:~BUILD CAR?~ з ¤ Џ з д з @ з @ яя ? З яяяя ? ... nthdimension.emuunlim.com/amf-62b.adz

But other than that, it's the perfect Amiga-result!

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Hakia
Nice try, but this is not answering my question.

Google
That's more like it.

@jorkany

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wtf?

Isn't that the usual response to pretty much anything coming out of there? It doesn't answer the question, and leaves one scratching his head. Yep, it works as expected.

Hakia wins big-time here.

I do a search for "amiga" (without quotes, don't know if they matter):

Google 1st hit:
Amiga, Inc.
"Amiga has an established reputation for delivering phenomenal graphics and high performance multimedia on PCs and mobile devices." ...
www.amiga.com/

Hakia 1st hit:
Amiga.org - News
Re: I am so tired! I have been an Amiga user since 1989. One thing I am so sick of, is watching the different parent companies we have had over the years, take the profits from Amiga ...
http://www.amiga.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2718


So, Hakia returns much more appropriate search results.

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This search engine seems another investment mistake done by Kouri.

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I find the search "Amiga" quite amusing, bearing in mind that Kouri is an investor in Amiga Inc.

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ahhh your no fun

Look up bankrupt
Google: Bankruptcy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hakia : InterNet Bankruptcy Library - Worldwide Troubled Company R...
Third one down: : bankrupt Definition
bankrupt - definition of bankrupt - A person, firm, or corporation that has been declared insolvent through a court proceeding and is relieved from the payment of all debts after ...
==============================================

Next word try: insolvent

Both on the third one down:
insolvent Definition

insolvent - definition of insolvent - Unable to meet debt obligations. opposite of solvent. ... Definition Unable to meet debt obligations . opposite of solvent . Related Terms

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@fairlanefastback

Hmm...Monday Wall Street Journal:

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What's more common is for CEOs to find one confidante to confer with who usually isn't a direct report. Riza Berkan, CEO of Hakia, a search-engine start-up, talks several times a week with board chairman and investor Pentii Kouri. "He gives me a perspective I don't have -- about people as well as finance matters," says Dr. Berkan, a computer scientist. When an investor said he wanted to attend board meetings, "I was ready to get into a fight, but Pentii encouraged me to win his understanding" and convince him that only directors would attend.

Interesting spelling, btw.

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number6 wrote: @fairlanefastback Hmm...Monday Wall Street Journal: Quote: What's more common is for CEOs to find one confidante to confer with who usually isn't a direct report. Riza Berkan, CEO of Hakia, a search-engine start-up, talks several times a week with board chairman and investor Pentii Kouri. "He gives me a perspective I don't have -- about people as well as finance matters," says Dr. Berkan, a computer scientist. When an investor said he wanted to attend board meetings, "I was ready to get into a fight, but Pentii encouraged me to win his understanding" and convince him that only directors would attend. Interesting spelling, btw. #6

You forgot the link, here it is..
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119240607692558680.html

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Somebody ought to tell Riza Berkan, the poor guy, who he is involved with.

But then again, he might have done a search on pentti kouri, and received these results:

Hakia:
Pentti Kouri
Pentti Juho Kalervo Kouri (born February 12, 1949 in Kemijarvi) is a Finnish economist and venture capitalist. He was a first Finn to get a stipend to Atlantic College. After graduating from there, he got his Master's degree in economics from University of Helsinki in 1970.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentti_Kouri

But, if he had used Google instead:
Pentti Kouri - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
On May 2001, the Kouri Capital group led by Dr Pentti Kouri and George Soros was declared bankrupt (data from Security Exchange Commission). ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentti_Kouri


I have never heard about Hakia before, but I would probably not (as an investor) invest my money in a search engine company today, considering the market situation. Is Pentti looking for a new tax write-off opportunity?

Oh, and according to http://www.hakia.com/company.html there's a guy from Prokom Investments on the board as well. I think that name rings a bell regarding Amiga as well?

It's a bit difficult to find out more about Prokom, but are they really just puppets controlled by Pentti?

And Amigas accountant John Grzymala, is on the management and board at Hakia.

The plot thickens (sp?).

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Oh, and according to http://www.hakia.com/company.html there's a guy from Prokom Investments on the board as well. I think that name rings a bell regarding Amiga as well?

Yes in the same year Prokom invested in both Hakia and Amiga and it was reported as such in the same annual report, 2005 I believe. Ryszard Krauze who up until recently was the head of Prokom and is still listed as on the Hakia board, as a bit of trivia about him, he stepped down as CEO for Prokom amid being charged with obstructing a high-level corruption probe that led to a collapse of the ruling coalition in Poland very recently. Not that that has anything to do with Amiga. But interesting nonetheless.

What may be further interesting though is that Prokom is merging with another firm, between that and Ryszard stepping down it will be interesting to see if any questions arise at it in regard to why millions was spent for such a small ownership stake of a company with little in the way of products like Amiga. Or at the least will they try to assert themselves differently when it comes to Amiga than Prokom on its own did?

http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx/2007/10/03/afx4180680.html

As for John G. he also showed up recently as I believe the Secratary for Itec in addition to what you mention for Amiga and Hakia (which has been brought up before for what its worth). If memory serves I believe he was the one who wrote the letter and sent $25,000 from Itec directly outside of the Amiga v. Hyperion dispute in order to try to obtain the source code that was, through Itec instead.

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Link to the ProKom thread with quotes about the relationship with AI and links to the .pdf and most major events concerning ProKom:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=22484&forum=2

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Thanks. :)

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The engine seems a tad slow compared to google.. If it should be a success, they should also let you search for video, images, blogs and so on..

Na thats not a search engine, thats OS5 in alpha testing

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But other than that, it's the perfect Amiga-result!

I think we can all agree that you have the best Amiga-specific search around! lol

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I wish we had more talent around here to do our own search engine company.. I think we could blow away hakia..

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I wish we had more talent around here to do our own search engine company..

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I don't come up with enough links for you guys?
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