http://highwire.atari-users.net/

Highwire it is a browser for ATARI machines. It works even on 68000 based Atari.

Unfortunately development seems it had stopped in 2004 (???) but it supported almost well CSS and HTML 3.2...

Also in the documentation here is the situation of the 0.3.2 version:

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New items since it went open source: * Frameset Support (90%) * Tables (98%) * HTML 4 compliant (90%) * HTML forms (20%)

It also supports 16 colours only screenmode, and 256 colors, 32K colors screenmodes, etc...

Once there were good developers who could take an Atari program and port it to Amiga...

I wonder if there is still someone, somewhere who could manage this porting...

If not, as being HighWire an open Source project then the 68000 code ENGINE it is available to everyone...

Just think of this fact... USING THE SAME ENGINE! ;

Another solution could be an Amiga+Atari joint team which could lead to a complete product for both machines...

Science fiction? Maybe... maybe...

Is there someone who has friends in the Atari camp?

Slashdot screenshot at 256 colors

http://highwire.atari-users.net/images/screenshots/slashdot_org02aug2003.gif

New York imes screenshot at 32000 colors

http://highwire.atari-users.net/images/screenshots/lutz_030827_1.jpg

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@Raffaele

Well the old rivals have got one up on us, I didn't even think there was that much action in the Atari camp now days.

Amiga + Atari teams joining forces now there's a thought, the only problem is the Amiga community can't get together at the moment so I don't see this happening for a long while yet if at all. Science fiction you say, maybe the headline could be

Amiga & Atari communities take over the world.
Microsoft closes its Windows and Apple crumbles as the old duo join forces to conquer the desktop and beyond.

It would be nice to see a decent browser though it is still incomplete with no Java and I also didn't see any mention of flash.

@Raffaele

Could this be run emulated on an Amiga with little performance hit? If so - Amiga's have flash support of sorts don't they?

@Arnie

Who cares of JAVA and Flash?

Just pick the source code of HighWire (it is OPEN SOURCE), and integrate ITS HTML CSS COMPLIANT HTML ENGINE in IBrowse, or Voyager, or even AWeb...

So we will have a modern browser (and it will see any page, with Javascript also)...

And HighWire still runs on 680X0 machines... (Got the point?)


We will have a modern browser!


THEN

We could focus on JAVA and Flash...

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@Bobsonsirjonny

Are the Amiga emulators able to show Hi-colour ST modes or would we be limited to 16 colours, I haven't delved that far into ST emulation yet.

They even got ICQ client, which we don't have anymore. StrICQ is not working for a long time, Epistula is not supporting ICQ protokol, so maybe only option for amiga users is Jabberwocky...

@ExiE

So what is the TOC plugin for epistula then a ICQ/AOL plugin ?

EDIT: Atari is not my cousin.

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@Raffaele

How is this possible? I thought that 68k machines were too slow to support CSS and all sort of stuff like that?

Well, they sure showed that it is possible. Has anyone here got an Atarii capable of running HighWire and can tell us how it runs on the 68k ?

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@Sir_Lucas

Even C64 has a CSS-compliant browser, so nothing to do with the cpu

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@Raffaele



Sorry, but IBrowse is better than HighWire, I used both.

@tomazkid

I know about it. But why can't A500 have CSS? Shoots look really nice comparing to IBrowse or AWeb of the same page.

Would it be possible to port it to 68k Amigas?

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@Sir_Lucas

Try Aranym.

@Sir_Lucas

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Would it be possible to port it to 68k Amigas?

A waste of time.

Highwire can work on ST, but it is really useable only on Aranym or Falcon.

@pavlor

Thx. Intersting

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@pavlor

So, what cpu does it require, 040? AFAIR, Falcon had 030/16 which could be upgraded to 040 or even 060?

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Impressive!. Really this could be a really useful piece of hardware for our 68k miggys.

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@Sir_Lucas

For me, even 68040 isn´t enough... but I estimate that Falcon with CT60 (cca 68060 100MHz) and GFX card could be ideal for net.

@pavlor

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pavlor wrote: @Sir_Lucas Quote: Would it be possible to port it to 68k Amigas? A waste of time. Highwire can work on ST, but it is really useable only on Aranym or Falcon.

This is not the point...

The important it is to study how it works the engine...

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Regarding 680X0 version...

The very first step it IS ALWAYS to port a 680X0 version of an alien program to 680X0 Amiga...

So the very first attempt it will be if someone would port HighWire to 680X0 Amigas...

Then it could be studied how to realize a PPC version of it...

In the meanwhile those who want to use it, they will use 680X0 version on their PPC Amigas (AmigaONE, Pegasos, Efika, Samantha) emulating the 680x0 instructions...


Classic Amigas with 68060:

If there is some lucky person with Classic Amigas with 060, then he could try to use it...

Other Classic Amigas:

If someone it will be capable to run HighWire on a 68040 at 25 MHZ or a 68030 at 50 MHz then he will experience it is worth the effort of porting or not...

But this is not our business, everyone could use his computer even if he tried to run programs which then slow down the computer...

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Now it is the moment to study how it works THE ENGINE and grab its features porting it into IBrowse, Voyager or AWeb...

BUT

If someone would try to port Highwire directly on Amiga, then he is welcome...

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You can see in action here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJANuSJI7nQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWzOKnbh7dw

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@Raffaele

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The important it is to study how it works the engine...

There is nothing to study there. Making a CSS/XHTML rendering age is not a black art and there is nothing about it that is non-standard and not known. It is not rocket science but it is a major effort that requires a committed team.

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