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amitv 
Amiga Washington does not own the Amiga name
Posted on 14-Jan-2008 23:39:42
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http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940426

http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?qs=78940426

LONG URL... here.


Following th e above links, the Amiga name does not belong to Amiga Washington, but still Amiga Delaware

Last edited by Yo on 15-Jan-2008 at 01:20 AM.
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Colin_Camper 
Re: Amiga Washington does not own the Amiga name
Posted on 14-Jan-2008 23:43:47
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@amitv

What does it mean?

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wegster 
Re: Amiga Washington does not own the Amiga name
Posted on 14-Jan-2008 23:44:05
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@amitv
It's too bad we can't sue them for incompetency? :-/

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Tigger 
Re: Amiga Washington does not own the Amiga name
Posted on 14-Jan-2008 23:44:06
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@amitv

Quote:

amitv wrote:
http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=78940426

http://ttabvue.uspto.gov/ttabvue/v?qs=78940426

LONG URL... here.

Following th e above links, the Amiga name does not belong to Amiga Washington, but still Amiga Delaware


There is no Amiga Washington, hasnt been since they sold the trademarks etc to KMOS which then became Amiga (Delaware). The company formerly known as Amiga (Washingon) is now known as Amino (which was its name before it bought the name from Gateway.
-Tig

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Re: Amiga Washington does not own the Amiga name
Posted on 14-Jan-2008 23:45:51
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@amitv

Registration Number: (NOT AVAILABLE)???

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AmigaBlitter 
Re: Amiga Washington does not own the Amiga name
Posted on 14-Jan-2008 23:46:45
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@Tigger

Yes, but the Amiga name seems still owned by Amiga Delaware!!!

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AmigaBlitter 
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It's too bad we can't sue them for incompetency? :-/



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wegster 
Re: Amiga Washington does not own the Amiga name
Posted on 14-Jan-2008 23:49:47
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@amitv

What does it mean?


Probably nothing, I'd assume AInc(W) has the rights to transfer everything, or it was given to them by KMOS, but they didn't file all the required paperwork?

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Tigger 
Re: Amiga Washington does not own the Amiga name
Posted on 14-Jan-2008 23:50:37
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@AmigaBlitter

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Yes, but the Amiga name seems still owned by Amiga Delaware!!!


Yes

KMOS == Amiga (Delaware) always has, always will.
-Tig

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Rob 
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@Tigger

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KMOS == Amiga (Delaware) always has, always will.


What's to say that they won't feel the need to do another Name transfer in the future.

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AmigaHeretic 
Re: Amiga Washington does not own the Amiga name
Posted on 15-Jan-2008 1:06:37
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What's to say that they won't feel the need to do another Name transfer in the future.



From what I heard they are going to have to transfer it to Hyperion soon.

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Quixote 
Re: Amiga Washington does not own the Amiga name
Posted on 15-Jan-2008 1:08:48
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There seems to be some confusion among the regulars here.

Amino, a Washington based company, bought the Amiga IP and trademarks from Gateway, then named themselves Amiga. (Washinton.) Years later, they sold that property to the Delaware based company KMOS, who then renamed themselves Amiga. (Delaware.)

The transfer never went the other direction, nor has Amiga (either) ever claimed that it had. So, finding evidence that the name currently belongs to Amiga (Deleware) is not a revelation of Amiga's incompetence, nor some sort of faililng on their part. No one incompetently failed to transfer the name.

What you've actually discovered is evidence that many here have misunderstood the current situation for quite a while now.

°º(Yet oddly, everyone feels qualified to gainsay Tigger when he tries to explain these things. Eh.)

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kirka 
Re: Amiga Washington does not own the Amiga name
Posted on 15-Jan-2008 1:19:23
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@Tigger

Did they buy the name?

I thought Amiga Washington only had a license to use it for a specific use.

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Rob 
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Posted on 15-Jan-2008 1:26:08
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@kirka

Amino bought the Amiga name, I.P. and inventory from Gateway. Gateway retained only the patents, which Amino were given unlimited use of.

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kirka 
Re: Amiga Washington does not own the Amiga name
Posted on 15-Jan-2008 1:41:46
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@Rob

I thought I just read on this site that they had an exclusive lifetime use/license of the name.

Can somebody put together a nice flowchart with ownership changes? It should be a hyperlink on the left. :)

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Derfs 
Re: Amiga Washington does not own the Amiga name
Posted on 15-Jan-2008 2:15:03
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@kirka

read post #12 again, it explains it for you in an easy to follow way.

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Posted on 15-Jan-2008 2:24:22
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@amitv

looking at it, Hyperion are challenging that the trademarks are owned by amiga.inc, and have given a timetable which means this will be resolved by early 2009. Hyperion are trying to string the lawsuits out even more IMHO.

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Posted on 15-Jan-2008 5:33:32
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Timeline of changes in Amiga IP-ownership

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Re: Amiga Washington does not own the Amiga name
Posted on 15-Jan-2008 5:57:19
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Care to elaborate on that?

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Dandy 
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Posted on 15-Jan-2008 13:00:32
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Quote:

AmigaHeretic wrote:
@Rob

Quote:


What's to say that they won't feel the need to do another Name transfer in the future.




From what I heard they are going to have to transfer it to Hyperion soon.



Interestingly my sources basically claim the same...

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