@ShadesOfGrey

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KMOS has done nothing to me. Nothing at all. They also haven't done anything for me.

Do you say the same about other big companies, that outsource things (like OS development) to other companies? Sometimes after trying (and failing) to do it in-house, as was the case with Amiga inc.

Sure, it wasn't KMOS (back then) who made the deal, and it's not exactly like "normal outsourcing deal" - but both parties seemed to be ok with the contract when they signed it. And yes, it took quite a while to convince them to continue the OS development.

Just trying to point out that by your logic, there are lots of big name companies "that are not doing anything"

@ShadesOfGrey

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Just so we are clear, I don't like the car analogy. It deals with physical property and doesn't translate well to IP. I only continued it, because I thought I could get my point across. Instead I've been told it was "even less like real life". Well, excuse me. From now on I will not use analogies here, ever, ever again.

It's far better to use a house and it's blueprints analogy IMO since it involves building (an OS).

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@ShadesOfGrey

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ShadesOfGrey wrote: Quote: Itec bought the OS back in 2003, and KMOS has been asking for it pretty much all the time since 2004. Its really difficult for me to look at the documents saying give us our OS, that have been going back and forth for most of 4 years and say that AI was happy with the situation. I'll gladly reconsider my position, link please.

Document 4, Exhibit F
Document 35, Exhibit Q

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Quote: There is a receipt for the OS buyback for 22500 which should have been 22250 from Hyperion to Itec. Both the Tachyon and the Itec checks specificially say they are for the buyback. The $8850 according to the letter accompanying it is in direct response to what Ben is asking for as the still due amount for the buyback. I'll gladly reconsider my position, link please.

Document 82 Exhibit C & D

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Quote: PDA port was paid in advance per the contract and according to the principles. So there is no backdebt for the PDA, and Itec bought the OS long before the PDA deal came up. I'll gladly reconsider my position, link please.

Document 26 Exhibit 12.

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Quote: As far as I know the new AI has sent shirts they didnt owe to people, offered to honor the coupons and got Bill McEwen to not be CEO. Shoot thats a better track record then Hyperion in my book. Wait... Backup. Isn't Bill McEwen currently the CEO? If not then who is? Oh, lovely, AI gave away some T-shirts to those people who didn't fork over $50. How magnanimous of them. Hyperion developign OS4, even as late as it was, can't compare to a T-Shirt! After all, I'm sure AI hand stitched every single one.

Pentti Kouri is the CEO of Amiga Inc Delaware (ie KMOS).

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Come on. Are you actually saying that AI has done more for the Amiga Community by 'fixing' the T-shirt debacle then Hyperion's release of OS4? "Oh, but it's sooo late!" So what. I notice that AI hasn't exactly kept to their time table either. And for no better reasons than why Hyperion fell short of theirs.

Hyperion is 1 guy, his name is Evert Carton, I think he has done nothing for the Amiga community. You guys have to stop thinking that the developers are part of Hyperion, because they arent and the documents we have seen so far would suggest they basically havent been paid by this one man company a bunch of you are having a love fest with.
-Tig

Last edited by Tigger on 04-Feb-2008 at 03:01 PM.

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