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Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 1-Nov-2010 22:28:16
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 1-Nov-2010 22:33:35
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 1-Nov-2010 22:52:06
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Wicked, I hope Hyperion has the capital to purchase it and then things can really get moving in a clearer direction.
Anyone able to speculate at how much it is actually worth? _________________
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 1-Nov-2010 22:54:38
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 1-Nov-2010 22:56:27
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| mr. sony once again i pray you!! Buy this sinkin ship and give us some cell based machines! Or at least buy the ainc, build some machine based on ps3 (lorraine was a semi console), develop an os based on something amiga (aros?) and give us our daily bread!! mr sony don't leave us!!
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 1-Nov-2010 22:56:48
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Gee Thanks
But not quite the same.
I wonder what price tag the IP can claim in 2010.. 5 figures, 6 figures, 7 maybe? _________________
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 1-Nov-2010 23:00:53
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| I wonder how much the Amiga brand is worth now a days? I'm surprised CommodoreUSA didn't just buy it all with there claim $30 million budget, but then I'm guessing Bill McEwen wants more than that, didn't they at one point value the business at $86 million.
I just wish Aeon, Hyperion, Clonato or anyone who has put any effort in to the Amiga platform in the past bought it and used it to create something worthy of the name, and not just another business man who get the name to just make money out of it.
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 1-Nov-2010 23:31:47
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| Sons of %$#@%$! They had to do this when I didn't have the funds.
They're putting a positive spin on it and I have a feeling they're looking in the $50M range. Though it's probably worth no more than $5M.
And the soap opera continues.
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 1-Nov-2010 23:57:19
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Now its time to do it. Sell all related Amiga patents and IPs to anyone (imagine Amiga Toasters, but real ))) so Amiga.com become pointless. And please make Snowmaker 2 _________________ OS 3.x AROS and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionalism. Learn it harder way! SinclairQL and WII U lover :D YT http://www.youtube.com/user/rasvoja |
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 2-Nov-2010 0:13:33
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| Say what you want about Hyperion but it would be logical if the ones making the OS would own the brand Amiga. If anyone else bought it the confusion would just thicken. |
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 2-Nov-2010 2:18:32
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| Last time it was clearly sold they paid ~$10M.
So this time they might be willing to accept around this price range.
My impression is that Hyperion can't afford even the lower end of any possible sale price.
Sounds like the estate of Penti Kouri is liquidating assets.
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 2-Nov-2010 3:00:16
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Niolator wrote: Say what you want about Hyperion but it would be logical if the ones making the OS would own the brand Amiga. If anyone else bought it the confusion would just thicken. |
Which judging by past actions would make McEwen and his gang very happy.
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 2-Nov-2010 4:05:25
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| However it sounds like Commodore bought all this stuff... so it's old news isn't it?
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 2-Nov-2010 4:06:45
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IMHO the Amiga brand with all the trademarks is worth $100K at most, and only to Hyperion as they're the only ones with an Amiga products. It's completely useless and therefore worthless to anyone else.
Amiga Inc. probably hopes to get $10M for it or $100M if you ask Bill McEwen but nobody is ever going to pay even $1M for it as there's absolutely no way to make that much in extra profits on any product just because it has the name "Amiga" on it.
Maybe if all the users who don't want to see the brand fall in the wrong hands (e.g. some industry completely unrelated to our computer) put their money together, it could add up to enough money to make a deal but then what would we do with it?
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 2-Nov-2010 4:07:51
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I dont really see why Commodore USA would buy Amiga inc.
They are planning on riding with Commodore name, which is bigger than Amiga name.
I dont see Buying Amiga Inc. giving them any added value anymore, unless they just want to eliminate competition or save money in long run from licendr expenses, and thats real expensive way to save from them.
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 2-Nov-2010 4:20:51
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I don't think so. Commodore USA supposedly obtained a license to use the brand Amiga but we don't know the exact terms, and for all we know they may have been scammed too.
This is new because what's for sale since today (Monday November 1st) is the brand, trademarks, IP, etc. and whoever would buy this would also become the licensor to C-USA.
I find it strange that within weeks of licensing the brand to C-USA everything is now up for sale. Maybe after the licensing deal AInc. realized that they weren't worth anything as they have nothing left to sell anymore, no OS, no name, no hardware, nothing.
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 2-Nov-2010 6:59:19
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| It is not entirely true to Amiga Inc are for sale although it would be the most logical.
Only the transaction may have generated enough money to survive for Amiga Inc. But Commodore says that the third and largest contract, and that the negotiations are ongoing.
Could it be a takeover of Amiga Inc.? Someone who works at the Commodore had great insight into Amiga.com and knew when the site would be back. How could he know that? Maybe just because there is a takeover?
It will be exciting to see the results!
EDIT: Strange that the notice is dated November. Several new issues are created: Can the deal between the Commodore and Amiga Inc has not gone through? Could it be that you want to sell the rest of the IP? Could it be a normal phenomenon in such a transaction to the advertised fixed it already sold?
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 2-Nov-2010 8:48:04
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| : D Interesting..... becoming the licensor of CUSA has style.... but more than 120.000$ i would not pay. I calculated this and that and i see no cance to get quickly money back with this license. The only interesting stuff is the orginal Source of classic AmigaOS but also there i see not much "money" to gain.
Interesting.... really interesting... I hope they make an auction.. Who bids one dollar? One dollar there! Who bids 2 dollar?
Ha why not making a Bounty!! Collect money buy Amiga Inc and relase everything as open source : D Last edited by phoenixkonsole on 02-Nov-2010 at 08:48 AM. Last edited by phoenixkonsole on 02-Nov-2010 at 08:48 AM.
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 2-Nov-2010 9:41:49
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+1 if hyperion could have bought it that would have been great. but such deals don't come cheap... |
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Re: Amiga Inc. on sale? Posted on 2-Nov-2010 9:48:03
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bounty to go opensource would secure definitively amigaos future. noone could hold hostage the os anymore like gateway and other did for years complete stand still .
that would be a tough one for hyperion though.. i wish there would be an easy way to ensure amigaos future and progress. so far hyperion are the only that did good, for a very long time. they deserve our support too.. |
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