http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbdYnw_kvKU

The web is evolving and has gotten to a point where it now possible to play complex games and apps in a browser, and now its even possible to run an Amiga system in a browser. Could this be a possible future for Amiga? I recommend the latest Chrome Web browser for these quite complex sites.

Javascrip simulation of workbench 4.1
http://home.datacomm.ch/mrupp/TAWS/WB.html

Java and Html5
http://www.chiptune.com/

Amiga Demos Reborn in html5
http://wab.com/

Most impressive - Full Amiga Emulator in a browser -very resource heavy
http://scriptedamigaemulator.net/

So what do you think?

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@amigang

You mean "Amiga in the cloud"?

How do you want to run UAE in a browser?

And how do you want to run Amiga-Applications (or games) in a browser?

HTML5 is really interesting and full HTML5 support will give our platforms access to games (and perhaps new applications). But the OS itself in the browser, I am not sure...

@OlafS25

No thanks! The very thought of it is vomit inducing!

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@OlafS25

OS in browser == silly, what would the browser run on top of then?

Desktop GUI in browser == not so bad an idea, actually. Is this sort of what MS is doing with their tiles thing?

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@amigang

That wab.com site really shows why it's not as cool an idea as it first sounds, to run everything through a browser (the browser is good for GUI but only mediocre for everything else). If anyone had showed me something as jerky as that on an A500 I would most certainly not have spent a floppy on copying it

And while I'm only on a Core2Duo, it's still a 3GHz machine, so should be able to at least compete with a 7MHz one from close to 30 years ago.

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@olegil

What would be the advantage of having the GUI in the browser? You still need the API for the different platforms (X86/Windows, Linux and so on) so it is no real option for MorphOS or AmigaOS. Only AROS would be flexible enough but I do not understand why having a web-GUI would be better (at least in the situation we are now).

@olegil

the tiles from Windows 8 are done in HTML? I do not think so otherwise you would need a browser to use it and I cannot remember that.

@amigang

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Javascript simulation of workbench 4.1

This is an amazing achievement, and I could only dream of running OS4.1 as smoothly as this on my SAM440.

The fonts are sharp and crisp, yet fully anti-aliased, which is something that OS4.1 fails to do.

The windows resize without any flicker or delayed redraw, again something that OS4.1 fails to do.

Really, if a JS implementation of OS4.1 is more responsive and better looking than the real thing, then there are major problems somewhere!

I'm still gobsmacked by how good it looks!

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@OlafS25

I don't know how they implemented their tiles (I haven't even used them), I'm asking a question if this would be a similar idea.

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@amigang

Wow, this is really amazing. Thanks for the links!
The WB4.1 simulator looks very nice. But the emulator is the most impressive. The website says it is based on WinUAE but the source code looks like a new implementation to me (very clean and unoptimized). Would love to convert it to Java, just for fun.

@olegil

http://droptiles.com/


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Most impressive - Full Amiga Emulator in a browser -very resource heavy

No. I do not like very resource heavy. I like to focus on the opposite of very resource heavy. I do not like emulators. The OS should be run natively and not be hosted in an emulator and it should not be hosted in Linux.

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@amigang

Why simplifying up everything into oblivion? Many software items under AmigaOS 4 works slow enough not to introduce browser-based software. I think we should think about low-level optimalization of existing solutions instead of getting more deep into the easy-to-use solutions like HTML5. That's my thoughts. Amiga lost hardware identification long time ago, now you want to loose software identifaction? So what will remain left to identify Amiga? In my opinion let's fight for these things that are here like Amiga One X1000, NatAmi. I would not put all hopes into the ever-upgrading World Wide Web. Just give the Amiga some commercial boost, it's necessary nowadays, bring more software-writers.

@amigang

Sure I'm game, a browser based Amiga could be fun.

@amigang

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amigang wrote: and now its even possible to run an Amiga system in a browser.

The very idea of it is enough to make me think, WTF is wrong with people these days...

Leave "social networking", "online shopping", "chatting on forums" etc... etc... to the internet, ie: something that it is good at...

and fer gawds sake keep computing on... well... erm... computers...


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Could this be a possible future for Amiga?

Nooooooope, not for me certainly.... the Amiga is a computer for people with creative minds, imagination and the ability to do something useful with them...

The internet is nothing more than another form of communication, it's got nothing to do with computing, after all you don't need a computer to use the internet and the Amiga doesn't require the internet to make it useful....

I know most (if any) won't agree with me on that but quite honestly I find all this "need" for the internet by people to be a backwards step and has taken many of you away from the joy of actually using your Amiga for proper computing tasks and just the plain and simple enjoyment of it...

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@Slash

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Really, if a JS implementation of OS4.1 is more responsive and better looking than the real thing, then there are major problems somewhere!

Must say I am amazed by how nice OS 4.1 JS implementation looks - and you can customized it to be from OS 1.2 to OS 4.1 look

All presented websites are interesting teasers, but again, this TAWS project looks so great. Since it cant really run OS 4 apps but is a nice showcase of AmigaOS at its current state, maybe it can be used to promote its existance to wider audience and old retro fans?

Check SYSTEM:TAWS folder for more info, copyright and plans!

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To get extra info, go to Workbench - Quit
Restart TAWS by clicking at http://home.datacomm.ch/mrupp/TAWS/WB.html
or link at info web page ...

You can hold both mouse buttons and get Amiga early boot menu

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About me Working at AGIS, I mostly program in .NET C# (such as a main developer of Prima) but am also fluent in Java, T-SQL, ASPX, PHP and JavaScript (as proofed with TAWS). Besides computing, a notable amount of my spare time is used for improvised acting, such as theatersports and the like. Check out tiltanic of St. Gallen. Enjoy life... Michael Rupp

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TAWS - The Amiga Workbench Simulation TAWS is a JavaScript-only (NO Java, NO Flash!) Simulation of the Amiga Workbench 3.x. Since version v0.13 of TAWS is no longer restricted to Win32 Internet Explorer and Firefox but will run on Opera and AppleWebKit-Browsers such as Safari, Google Chrome and OWB as well! Note the file "System:TAWS/Browsers" inside TAWS for more details... I started this project just-for-fun in 2001 but then thought to lay it aside for a bit. But then, just about 8 years later, I suddenly got very excited about TAWS again and decided to go on. It might have something to do with treating myself to The Red One F in summer 2010... December 2012: And then, as the Amiga fever took over again, it had to be one of these beauties: AmigaOne X1000 All the information previously found here (such as the release history and future plans) are now located inside TAWS, located in the "System:TAWS" directory. Click here to launch TAWS and have fun!

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@amigang

must admit its cool to have Workbench actually workable on my tablet BUT I'll stick with my Amiga's

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@Slash

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This is an amazing achievement,

It surely is an imprwsive simulation, it looks pretty good on chrome on my linux laptop, although there a couple of glitches here and there. It actually renders more acurately on my SAM using OWB (reaction version). Much slower on OWB obviously.

I love the guru you get when running in Aweb!

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and I could only dream of running OS4.1 as smoothly as this on my SAM440.

This statement just depresses me. The lack of perception and understanding about what you are seeing and comparing is beyond belief. Even on a 64 bit dual core laptop with nvidia drivers installed the images of windows only just keep up with the smoothnes of the real thing.

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The fonts are sharp and crisp, yet fully anti-aliased, which is something that OS4.1 fails to do.

Fully antialiased and sharp are mutualy exclusive statemets. But given that OS4 fonts render much better than those in my Chrome browser (which aren't antilaiased) the one in OWB render exactly the same, because surprise, they re being render by OS4.

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The windows resize without any flicker or delayed redraw, again something that OS4.1 fails to do.

******** Workbench windows on OS4.1 render perfectly smoothly, and with no flicker whatsover.

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Really, if a JS implementation of OS4.1 is more responsive and better looking than the real thing, then there are major problems somewhere!

Something is severely not right with your SAM if that is true.
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I'm still gobsmacked by how good it looks!

I'm not going to say what I'm gobsmacked about becuase people would take offense.

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