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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 14-Aug-2010 19:23:49
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If I remember correctly the 2.05 ROM was only released for A600. All other models used 2.04. It was drivers for the PCMCIA that was added for that revision.
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 14-Aug-2010 19:26:05
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Pal machine , but the colorflull flickering is just gfx trash. my 32" LDC TV don't care about NTSC or Pal :) _________________ www.brevis-design.de |
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 14-Aug-2010 19:27:47
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I found this link with some info on installing the ROM and Amiga motherboard revision differences.
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 14-Aug-2010 19:32:40
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hmm both where sold as A2000 roms and with the description a500 / a600 / a2000 _________________ www.brevis-design.de |
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 14-Aug-2010 19:33:13
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thanks yes the link i found also and tested and failed :) _________________ www.brevis-design.de |
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 14-Aug-2010 19:46:58
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I think you should try and get hold of 2.04 ROM's instead and you'll find they work alot better with your A2000. 
Search for AmigaOS in Wikipedia and they also mention 2.05 as released for A600.
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 14-Aug-2010 19:56:34
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well i somehow doubt that the 0.01 revison bump shall cause this cus its told that kick 3.1 also works with the amiga 2000
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 14-Aug-2010 20:01:04
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 14-Aug-2010 20:04:40
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ahyes i first jumpered it from 1 to 31 then i followed another description that told i shall jumper 1 to 31 on the mainboard and 31 to 21 on the kickstart so you see the last result. _________________ www.brevis-design.de |
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 14-Aug-2010 20:05:57
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| The content of http://www.oldsoftware.com/kickstart.html is identical to my KS 3.1 install instructions - so you have tried the right alternative but failed (2.x and 3.x should behave identical in this respect) |
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 14-Aug-2010 20:29:05
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| Just to remove a couple of misunderstandings. A rev. 37.350 rom can be used without a problem in an a2000 and is not limited to being used in an a600. Furthermore a kickstart chip doesn't change pal/ntsc, that can be only be changed by replacing agnus iirc.
As for the ot problem, sorry, I can't help. If the wire patch doesn't work I'm out of ideas. _________________
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 14-Aug-2010 20:52:02
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 14-Aug-2010 21:15:40
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yep ive bend it up after the pin 1 to 31 sollution didnt worked out and the amiga started to puke gfx trash on me :) I now ordered a kickstart switcher from amigakit. Might that help _________________ www.brevis-design.de |
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 14-Aug-2010 23:08:27
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| @Mangaclub A few questions.. Did both ROMs give a red screen without any wire fixes? (or just the non-MX branded chip?)
With the Amiga powered off and ROM removed, does a multimeter show 0 ohms between pins 21 and 31 at the socket?
Are there any traces coming away from pin1? If there are, does one go back to A18 at the CPU (should be pin 46) _________________
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 15-Aug-2010 0:40:03
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If I remember correctly the 2.05 ROM was only released for A600. Sounds right. The PCMCIA Type II and the internal 44-pin ATA interface on the A600 were controlled by the 'Gayle' custom chip. There's no Gayle chip on the A2000 ISTR. That might explain the 'RED' screen of Death! Wasn't there a special "Productivity mode" with the video gfx driver too? _________________
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 15-Aug-2010 7:47:23
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| There should be no problems; I remember feeling funny when my A500 was equipped with CC device in boot menu as I installed 2.05 ROM...
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 15-Aug-2010 9:36:33
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Doobrey wrote: @Mangaclub A few questions.. Did both ROMs give a red screen without any wire fixes? (or just the non-MX branded chip?)
With the Amiga powered off and ROM removed, does a multimeter show 0 ohms between pins 21 and 31 at the socket?
Are there any traces coming away from pin1? If there are, does one go back to A18 at the CPU (should be pin 46) |
Yes both gave red screen without any fixes.
The multimeter shows 1400 Ohm , if ive read it right between those 2 pins.
So far i dont know what you mean by traces but there are no extra whires soldered at the back of the board coming from the kickstart. But there are some other red wires all over the board, maybe made by the manufactor. Well i know this A2000 got 3 owners before me (yes bad thing to deliver all disks with private date to the next owner:) so i dont know what they did on it already beside a selfmade kickstart switch from 1.2 to 1.3 wich i dont use anymore.
anyhow i uploaded a photo of the back here:
http://www.hikaru.at/amiga2000-back.jpg
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 16-Aug-2010 16:46:36
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Mangaclub wrote: Yes both gave red screen without any fixes.
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Hmmm, I'd have expected the Macronix(MX) ROM not to work without any fixes.
The red screen is kinda good.. in the sense that it shows the ROM is working in 16 bit mode without any fixes. It just can't read the full ROM to calculate the correct checksum.
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Thanks for that, I was able to trace out where A18 actually went on your A2000.. and it does go to Pin 31 on the Kickstart socket instead of pin 1.
http://www.doobreynet.co.uk/temp/AW_A2000ROM.jpg (Yellow = traces on bottom side, Red= traces on top side)
So I'm puzzled, applying the fix(bend up pin 31 and wire it to pin 21 to put the ROM in '16 bit output mode' , then wire pin 1 to socket of pin 31 to reroute A18 to the correct input pin) you described should work.
The only thing I can think of is that pin 1 is connected to ground even though the schematics show it as 'not connected' If that is the case, you could try bending pin 1 up out of the socket.
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 16-Aug-2010 17:09:27
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| I have a Kickstart 3.1 pulled from an A2000 for sale : 16 euros with shipping in Priority...
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Re: Help needed with Amiga 2000 and Kickstart 2.05 Posted on 16-Aug-2010 17:52:02
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Thanks for pointing that out :)
hmm i wonder if it got something todo that i just got 512 Kb of chipram ?
@cosmos
thanks for the offer but i doubt it will work anyhow :)
well, i'll wait now till the kickstart switcher arrives, wich should be that week, and keep you updated. _________________ www.brevis-design.de |
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