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Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 30-May-2008 1:16:06
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| Who said getting your A600/A1200 online via a PCMCIA WiFi card has to be expensive or complicated? I have found a winning combination.
Two biggest problems with doing Amiga WiFi on the cheap:
1: Not sure what PCMCIA card to buy 2: AmiTCP is hard to configure
OK I have found a seller of new 802.11b 5v Orinoco PCMCIA cards. They have tons, and even though I had one already, at the price they are charging, I bought another. It arrived next day. See link to the eBay listing here or if you are reading this months from when I posted it, their eBay shop here. The description of the card you need is "FAST WIRELESS WIFI 802.11B LAPTOP/NOTEBOOK PCMCIA CARD "
So that's problem number 1 solved, now problem 2.
First of all download and install the prism2 driver here.
Then download AmiTCP here. To install and configure the program, use this excellent guide!
I wanted to email the guys who wrote this guide, but couldn't find email addresses for them. If anyone knows the authors of this document, please pass on my appreciation.
Points to note: 1: When the guide mentions cnet.device, obviously look for/type prism2.device.
2: These older cards don't have WPA/WPA2 encryption so you need to bear that in mind when getting it to work with your router/access point - you need to use WEP (for added protection when using WEP, turn on MAC address filtering).
Using this solution, I am using IRC and Email on my 2MB/68000 Amiga 600! Its incredible - even after loading workbench, the TCP/IP stack, screensaver, Grapevine IRC client, Iris Email client I STILL have about 500k RAM remaining!
I am going to put my second WiFi card to good use in an 68030 powered A1200 machine I am putting together this week
I hope this post helps someone on a budget to get their A600/A1200 online. If you want an all-in-one software/hardware solution with a more automatic installation method and lots of networking programs, Amigakit have a solution here. Last edited by A1200 on 18-Sep-2014 at 02:37 PM. Last edited by A1200 on 30-May-2008 at 01:16 AM.
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 30-May-2008 13:17:16
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| @A1200
Yup this is the exact place I got my card from, really easy to set up and works brilliantly!
I've been looking for the Orinoco cards for a while but that guy has loads and there all new AND at a reasonable price, a winning combination.
I urge anyone who needs a card to get one from that link NOW before they all run out!
_________________ A1200, 68060/64MB/1.2GB/WiFi/AGAtoCRT/OS3.9 Pegasos I, G3 600Mhz/512/9200SE/80GB WinUAE, Ryzen 5 2400G/Vega11, 8GB DDR4, 256GB SSD,Win 10 Pro x64 Amiga Forever ! |
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 30-May-2008 18:15:30
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| @DBAlex
i just bought one! thanx!! _________________ AOS4 Betatester, Peg2, G4@1ghz, Radeon 9250 256mb, 1gb RAM.
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 30-May-2008 19:34:01
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| @A1200
I use genesis tcp, are they the same? will that work?
I'm state side USA. |
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 30-May-2008 21:23:25
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It would work fine. As I said, just like the AmiTCP install, you will need to use the prism2.device driver, not the cnet one :) _________________ Amiga A1200, 3.1 ROMs, Blizzard 1230 MKIV 64MB & FPU, 4GB DoM SSD, Workbench 3.1 |
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 1-Jun-2008 3:47:22
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 1-Jun-2008 4:45:23
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| hello,
- the ocorino cmcia card work inside a metal tower like a dbox (elbox) tower ????
-what is the max transfer speed you optain with this card ???
(Know nothing about this subject, use ethernet with mediator here).
_________________ BTW, what you have done for the amiga today ????
-A1200+Mediator+VooDoo3+060/50+96mo+SCSI-KIT -SAM440EP-667mhz-on MapowerKC3000+AOS4.1
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 1-Jun-2008 9:25:00
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| @Mrodfr
I guess you need to use a pcmcia angle adapter for your tower. Don't know where to get one of those, though. If I could only find a source for female PCMCIA connectors I would be all over the task of selling those adapters, including cabled versions for drive bay or PCI slot hole mounted PCMCIA... _________________ This weeks pet peeve: Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean. |
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 1-Jun-2008 9:56:28
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Ok, so that was stupid. FCI have them.
Memo to self:
Female: 10014744-002 Male R/A for cabled version: 10001489-056HA Male straight for R/A adapter: 94937-0543LF
D'oh. Last edited by olegil on 01-Jun-2008 at 09:56 AM.
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 1-Jun-2008 13:18:58
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| @A1200
Is there definitely no way to get any of the cards working with WPA-2? I really would not like to switch from that to WEP, because once somebody cracks your access point (which is easy with WEP), it's then easy to grab any MAC address and spoof it...
That price seems very good, probably because most people want 11g cards these days...? |
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 1-Jun-2008 16:18:06
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| @olegil
I have the pcmcia angle adapter. my question is wifi work inside a metal tower (pcmcia is all inside the tower) ??
BTW, could you explain more your post #9 ??? possible to make a pcmcia angle adapter with a ribbon ??? what is FCI ??? Last edited by Mrodfr on 01-Jun-2008 at 04:19 PM.
_________________ BTW, what you have done for the amiga today ????
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 1-Jun-2008 16:23:01
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| @Mrodfr
FCI is a company that makes connectors
Of course it's possible to have a PCMCIA adapter with a ribbon. 30-40 cm should be no problem. It's basically an ISA bus, after all. Not rocket science...
But how well it'll work inside a metal tower, who knows. Try _________________ This weeks pet peeve: Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean. |
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 1-Jun-2008 17:42:45
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| @Mrodfr
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- the ocorino cmcia card work inside a metal tower like a dbox (elbox) tower ????
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Should do, being inside the case won't shield the signal completely, but might reduce the performance and range. A lot of cards have external antenna connectors, so you can easily mount an antenna on the outside of the case.
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-what is the max transfer speed you optain with this card ???
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I tended to get about 400KB/sec out of these cards in an x86 based laptop, not sure what an Amiga would achieve. It's usual to get around half the rated speed with wireless, 11mb wifi -> 400kb/sec, 54mb wireless -> 3MB/sec etc... |
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 1-Jun-2008 22:03:43
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 2-Jun-2008 10:12:02
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yes, but need the same with a ribbon for putting the pcmcia outside the tower (in case of metal tower like dbox here) ???
_________________ BTW, what you have done for the amiga today ????
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 2-Jun-2008 15:50:40
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Hmm... You could try and get a card with antennae and then put it through a blank pci slot and out the back of the case?
Could work... Problem is I don't know any amiga compatible cards that take an antennae...
Maybe someone can help on that? _________________ A1200, 68060/64MB/1.2GB/WiFi/AGAtoCRT/OS3.9 Pegasos I, G3 600Mhz/512/9200SE/80GB WinUAE, Ryzen 5 2400G/Vega11, 8GB DDR4, 256GB SSD,Win 10 Pro x64 Amiga Forever ! |
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 3-Jun-2008 15:10:05
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There are Amiga-compatible cards that have an antenna jack, for example the original Orinoco cards (NOT the ones linked to in the original post, which I suspect are just trying to cash in on the Orinoco name). |
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 4-Jun-2008 10:06:56
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| @A1200
I bought one too - does it matter which wireless router I purchase and can anyone recommend one - I'm looking to connect the A1200, the AmigaOne XE and a 'Bloze Laptop
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 4-Jun-2008 18:31:56
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since jan i baught job lots of amiga and the games utilites.
i got a parallel and com1 to serial cable with the software to off Ebay. but how exactly do i get the software to the Amiga as i am having problems with both , so unless one of you
insightfull Amigans help me the card i baught which arived to day wil go unused. the one you sudgested in the first post i downloaded the software to. i got a peace of software called ADF Sender terminal which does send to the amiga Hurray!! but i dont see it in RAM here is the link to the walk through incase anyone else has this problem and in the interest of being helpfull to others HERE IT IS ADF SENDER SENDER WALK THROUGH
i am completely new since its been so long that i used an amiga.
i have a 80mb flash card to but unsure which PC card reader would make this so much easier. if anyone has an idea on any of this well besides helping me think of the thousands who will read these posts
Go on i know you want to....
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Re: Amiga PCMCIA Wireless Posted on 6-Jun-2008 0:10:01
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Hi
i decided to get one of these too.
any idea where to put the wep key when using Genesis? i have used the wizard for most of the settings and it seems to connect Ok but will not load any pages in a browser. I think it must be the wep key is needed to allow access but cannot see anywhere to enter this. Is genesis not able to use a wireless network?
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