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-Sam- wrote: @ferrels Quote: The X1000 is "progress" and "the only game in town? Well, it's 7 year old technology and is using a CPU that's been discontinued. That's not what anyone will call progressive I didn't say it was the best hardware available - I said it was the best out of what is available ie - using standard components to build a marketable system. You want to name another system that is more 'the only game in town' than the X1000 and SAM systems? Deafening silence - there aren't any other production systems! You could argue that only includes the SAM as the X1000 isn't available yet. Quote: But I agree that the SAM440/460 is the only game in town IF you're an OS4 fan From a rebuilding a market point of view it is the only option. The Natami will fill a niche but if you were trying to rebuild a market you wouldn't do it solely on NatAmi - you would need the X1000/SAM approach of using standard hardware. OS 3.9 is way too long in the tooth. Besides the X1000 is not a closed door to MOS and AROS. I am a fan of all Amiga OS flavours. Quote: The market for Amigas has long since ceased to be. It's now just a hobbyist scene and will remain so. Finally something we agree on. Yes - I believe it will but if you were trying to rebuild a market then your best approach - 'the only game in town' - would still be theSAM/X1000 approach. The NatAmi - although very cool - is not that option.

True, we're in agreement that ANY new Amiga hardware won't be the best in town. As a hobby-OS, I think that Amiga (OS4 and classic) will always be left using out-of-date hardware. The only new Amiga-like OS not held back by such limitations is AROS for x86.

The Natami wasn't designed to compete with any systems running OS4. As I said in an earlier post, it was designed for Amiga Classic fans who have dreamed to see an Amiga 5000 or greater. The Natami will approximate a fast 68060, which we all agree is "ancient" in terms of what's available today. I also don't think anyone here is delusional enough to think that the former Amiga market can be rebuilt. Thse days are long past. NG Amiga designers (X100 included) are just looking to fill niches to satisfy those of us who still enjoy thinking about what "might have been" had Amiga not gone out of business. OS3.9 may be long in the tooth, but that's what the Natami was designed to run. It will also run OS 3.9 with extensions for the new hardware and graphics modes and a new-and-improved networking and USB stack. A version of AROS is also being developed to run on it as well.

So if you're looking for an OS4 system, look elsewhere. The Natami is looking to recreate the A5000+ that never was, but the one we dreamed about before Amiga folded.