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Re: Dave Haynie expresses thoughts on Natami and X1000
Posted on 19-Apr-2011 13:14:28
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@opi

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X11 should be a band-aid not a final solution

Who says it have to be a final solution. We don't have enough developer power to finish the job. And instead of helping the cygnix guy many people are sitting on fences and whining. (Did you recognize yourself ?)

Also, think Cygnix as a virtual machine.

Last edited by Tomppeli on 19-Apr-2011 at 01:16 PM.

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@opi

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alien solution be presented as Good Thing


Better than nothing.

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GTK-to-Reaction (or MUI) is proper move, GTK over X11 should be a band-aid not a final solution.


Nice idea. I heard the same argument from some of the MorphOS software developers. That is probably answer why there is no useable text editor with footnotes support for MorphOS.

In my point of view not so ideal solution (AmiCygnix on OS4) is better than no solution (eg. GTK-to-MUI on MorphOS).

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@opi

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why buy an Amiga for Gimp when I can have that on Linux!! The problem is actually the other way around, we want our familiar Amiga environment with all of its much beloved features, and using Gimp doesn't chage that one bit.


I know what you're saying but I can hardly call using GIMP over X11 as that different from using Linux. Look, I'm all for making AmigaOS easy to be target platform for porting software. It's the only way we can get complex software. What I don't understand is letting half-baked, alien solution be presented as Good Thing™.

GTK-to-Reaction (or MUI) is proper move, GTK over X11 should be a band-aid not a final solution. Now, adding Qt to the mix (very powerful toolkit) makes it even harder to have anything that can be consider Amiga-experience.

So when you say that you want to keep using Amiga even if Linux/Mac/Windows has better port of GIMP/Blender/WebKit browser I understand. But dropping every toolkit you can lay your hands onto system without any serious work to make it native is a easy way to project hell.

I've seen it many times: adding features for sake of features instead refining core. Half-baked semi-solutions, hacks and feature-creeping: Broken Windows Theory.


I agree

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