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Re: Dave Haynie expresses thoughts on Natami and X1000
Posted on 19-Apr-2011 12:55:55
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While we are at it I wonder if SMP support for AmigaOS 4.x will allow us to use a Powerpc PCI card as well as the built in CPU on older machines.

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why buy an Amiga for Gimp when I can have that on Linux!! The problem is actually the other way around, we want our familiar Amiga environment with all of its much beloved features, and using Gimp doesn't chage that one bit.


I know what you're saying but I can hardly call using GIMP over X11 as that different from using Linux. Look, I'm all for making AmigaOS easy to be target platform for porting software. It's the only way we can get complex software. What I don't understand is letting half-baked, alien solution be presented as Good Thing™.

GTK-to-Reaction (or MUI) is proper move, GTK over X11 should be a band-aid not a final solution. Now, adding Qt to the mix (very powerful toolkit) makes it even harder to have anything that can be consider Amiga-experience.

So when you say that you want to keep using Amiga even if Linux/Mac/Windows has better port of GIMP/Blender/WebKit browser I understand. But dropping every toolkit you can lay your hands onto system without any serious work to make it native is a easy way to project hell.

I've seen it many times: adding features for sake of features instead refining core. Half-baked semi-solutions, hacks and feature-creeping: Broken Windows Theory.

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      Re: Dave Haynie expresses thoughts on Natami and X1000Tomppeli19-Apr-2011 13:14:28
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as you know MuiOWB from Fab is being ported and FF4.0 too (the latter even features WebGL) so feel confindent the web is covered.


Just as a precision, WebKit itself supports WebGL since 2009 or so. Enabling it in OWB would be possible, if the underlying GL layer offered all the needed bits (which it doesn't currently).

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