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This logic is just plain wrong - and surprising coming from a Sage of Amiga lore. I've heard this many times before. That "next generation" Amiga's aren't really Amiga's simply because they are so different from the classics. Or because it shares components with 'evil' PCs.

Another arguement is next generations amigas are not amigas because they cannot be legally called Amigas

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jingof wrote: If that logic holds, then today's Macs are not TRUELY Macs because they are so different from classic Macs. Heck, if Dave Haynie and the original Amiga team were still producing new Amigas, they would likely be unrecognizably different by now. Distance from the classics cannot be the measure of "Amiganess." Otherwise, a "modern" future for this platform (or any other) is an impossibility. Evolve or Die.

The only way you could get Amiga Classic-like performance out of a VGA-style chip would be if you made everybody use a common API that contained all of the functionality of the Classic Amiga chipset and then implement those features as fragment shader programs using Gallium drivers. (BTW, I tried doing it with MESA on a Linux machine. It takes 4 times as much memory per pixel to do a palette mapped resolution with copper rainbows as what it would take banging the Gallium drivers directly.)

As for evolving and dying, isn't that how natural selection works? You die to evolve.

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jingof wrote: @Forcie-NatamiTeam Quote: For one, you can claim real Amiga cred there -- doing things the Amiga way. You're not just a PC with a PowerPC CPU and some VGA chip trying to make the claim of being an Amiga. This logic is just plain wrong - and surprising coming from a Sage of Amiga lore. I've heard this many times before. That "next generation" Amiga's aren't really Amiga's simply because they are so different from the classics. Or because it shares components with 'evil' PCs. If that logic holds, then today's Macs are not TRUELY Macs because they are so different from classic Macs. Heck, if Dave Haynie and the original Amiga team were still producing new Amigas, they would likely be unrecognizably different by now. Distance from the classics cannot be the measure of "Amiganess." Otherwise, a "modern" future for this platform (or any other) is an impossibility. Evolve or Die.

At last something worth reading... exactly! Exactly!

And these very same people who go on about an Amiga not being an Amiga because it hasn't got custom chips turn around and go, who needs to use floppy disks anymore? Yes, I'm pointing at you! LOL

The Amigas custom chips were just a design you know and each chip did something cool for the system. Eventually all the chips would have been phased out just like RTG as the years went by...

I believe most people who truely believe this notion are simply finding a justification to create there own closure on the Amiga... it suits them for whatever reason not to pursue it any longer and that's fine but FFS don't run the modern movement down... It ain't your ride anymore so bow our gracefully eh?

Like I've preached for many years now, I have never left the Amiga, I have masses of old Amiga models and have 3 newer systems soon to be 4 and then 5 actually since I need to get a 460 for my collection too...

I've never stopped enjoying computing, you don't see me post day after day rising issues do you? When I get my X1000 I'll start the new road of programming and I tell you, that's very exciting Instead of just mucking around compiling I'm going to actually be able to understand what things are doing and directly change...!

Take a leaf out of my book, accept what you are and be happy and leave others alone.

@Jingof well done! I was beginning to worry I was one of the few with this kind of insight left on these boards... as you see, I don't post very often anymore...

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