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Re: UltimatePPC - year after
Posted on 22-May-2013 16:33:02
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Any sort of update on this would be very welcome

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Re: UltimatePPC - year after
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CouldŽnt Petunia run 68K software very fast ?


according to benchmarks i did few years ago 604 class ppc cpu can emulate 060 68k about clock by clock. so an 150mhz one gives three times faster 060/50. that in real life test. i guess it was ffmpeg or some demos. it is some time past and utility base is down, so i cant tell if im completely right.

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The UltimatePPC is the same sort of card like the Cyberstorm- and BlizzardPPC so OS4 (Classic) sees the AGA-chipset.

not, according to whats been posted. ppc side on this card seem not to have access to the legacy amiga chipset/periferia. a major showstopper if you ask me. reminds me of the dragon/sonnet card concept by elbox. cant personally see the reason to put such a card into amiga instead to use standalone ppc board.

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Re: UltimatePPC - year after
Posted on 22-May-2013 19:34:48
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CouldŽnt Petunia run 68K software very fast ?

Yes but its close sourced and part AmigaOS4, it will require Hyperion to be interested, its questionable due to the type of CPU, P1013 or Power ISA e500v2 is a double precision CPU, according to Wikipedia

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Support for SPESFP (Single Precision Embedded Scalar Floating Point). This is a new floating point unit that is distinct from the classic FPU, the latter of which is lacking in e500v1 and e500v2. SPESFP uses the integer register file. It is not completely IEEE754 compliant.


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Q: What PowerPC CPU are you using?
A: The UltimatePPC uses the Freescale QoriQ P1013 e500v2 CPU.


I'm no expert on this but there some issues her, don't know the finer details, the CPU might work fine, or it might result in poor preperformance and lot missing instruction interrupts. If you ever used a Atom CPU you know its a slow crippied CPU, if you ever used Cyrix you know how bad it can be, to have cut down CPU. I don't know but there might be issues, whit this one.

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Q: Will the PowerPC CPU be supported in WarpUP / PowerUp under the Classic 3.x OS versions?
A: That would be awesome. It will be a very difficult task because for this to work as we would need to have a compatible kernel that runs on the UltimatePPC. The PowerUp / WarpUP kernel is closed source and not available to us and we would need to work around the slight differences in architecture. We would love to see this If you have voodoo coding skills, know how and want to put in serious effort please let us know. Developed


So basically its unlikely the PowerPC can be used for legacy PowerPC programs.

According to Wikipedia e500 is Power ISA v.2.03, so I guess your going to have the same issues as Sam440 and Sam460 whit running WarpEMU if you get AmigaOS4 support.

So what WAWA says is wrong the Power ISA is supported, but there might be issues whit FPU instructions.

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