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Seiya 
Re: Software software!!!
Posted on 7-Oct-2014 21:54:35
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Quote:

kyle wrote:
What I see!

Warp3D, RadeonHD v2.4!!!

Slurp


2D drivers, anyway..

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Rob 
Re: Software software!!!
Posted on 8-Oct-2014 0:06:36
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@Seiya

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but I always understood that Warp3D was an API for hardware acceleration of 3D functions.

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Daytona675x 
Re: Software software!!!
Posted on 8-Oct-2014 4:27:48
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@Rob

I suppose Seiya means that Warp3D has no support for exploiting what was called T&L in the ancient times. All 3D transformations, lighting-calculations etc. have to be done in software.

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phoenixkonsole 
Re: Software software!!!
Posted on 8-Oct-2014 5:48:04
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@Fransexy
1. i did offer colaboration
2. why closing mine when it is better?
3. they don't post my news entries so nope i am no more Interested as well
Just a pity. I stop posting here, things Happened allready.

Just a hint from 'not a friend':
In that form the AppStore is not commercial useable except they plan to allow Users to give a bought Software back at any Time.

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Manu 
Re: Software software!!!
Posted on 8-Oct-2014 6:27:16
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I still don't get it how people can get this worked up over an app store? It isn't like 1000's of apps suddenly emerged. If it would bring an android sandbox with it I maybe would raise my eyebrows. This will not change anything, as I already said if programmers want to reach out to a bigger audience to earn a few, they could always be consistent and code their programs so the work on all three Amiga clones and make their programs a 30-day trial.

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ROMwack 
Re: Software software!!!
Posted on 8-Oct-2014 6:27:44
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@Rob

Warp3D only appears in the OS3.x screenshot, unfortunately.

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Bugala 
Re: Software software!!!
Posted on 8-Oct-2014 6:34:29
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@Doublework

Although Double, triple, quadruple work as we have got used to in our Amiga Community does seem somewhat silly many times, I am actually not that worried about it, since I also believe while it many times hinders things, it also sometimes accelerates them and makes them better.

For when there is competition, you have to fight to be better and are motviated to become better and add more features.

Take for example Final Writer / Wordworth (hope i remembered names right) from the past. Seems to me like they were fighting against each other at one point, and both were adapting new stuff to their software very fast to make them shine just bit more from the other one.

I would imagine this have happeend especially on MorphOS side as well at some point. I can easily see how when AOS4 have been coming out and announcing things, that it have rouse that battle mentality to show to those buggering AOS team what MorphOS can do instead of everyone talking of AOS4.


Also, I basically think it is good there are at least two appstores for Amiga, for if there be only one, like in Apples case, it would be hard to make new one if someone gets a good idea for a appstore kind of thing.

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Rob 
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@ROMwack

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Warp3D only appears in the OS3.x screenshot, unfortunately.


It looks like all software is displayed regardless of which version you're using. Notice how the 68k version has a load of OS4 only software displayed in the window too.

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OlafS25 
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Posted on 8-Oct-2014 8:28:18
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never mind

Last edited by OlafS25 on 08-Oct-2014 at 01:12 PM.
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eliyahu 
Re: Software software!!!
Posted on 8-Oct-2014 12:22:33
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@thread

i love this thread, i really do. someone tries to do something positive, and, "they should have done it this way!" "they should have done it that way! "this is pointless!" "why isn't it for my platform?!" "why won't they do what i want?!" "amiga is dead!"



here's an idea: how about waiting until it's actually released before starting to whinge and rend our garments? just for kicks. just to change things up a little. what do you say? i know it's not the amiga way, but just this once i'd truly love it if people who won't be using it anyway no matter what would keep their incredibly insightful and hugely important opinions to themselves.

-- eliyahu

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cgutjahr 
Re: Software software!!!
Posted on 8-Oct-2014 12:52:19
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Yay, another thread about phoenixkonsole, phoenixkonsole's products and phoenixkonsole next big project!

I so missed that.

@phoenixkonsole:

Amigakit has many faults, but they get two things right:

1. they keep out of your threads.
2. the don't write their software with Hollywood

Maybe you should try imitating the pros.

@Olaf:

Quote:

Shutting down the better concept? Are you serious?

This isn't about better concepts, it's about money and control - and about two commercial entities who don't want to share either. Taking sides in this 'conflict' is just silly, Olaf.

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Nibunnoichi 
Re: Software software!!!
Posted on 8-Oct-2014 13:15:17
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@eliyahu

Quote:

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@thread
i love this thread, i really do. someone tries to do something positive, and, "they should have done it this way!" "they should have done it that way! "this is pointless!" "why isn't it for my platform?!" "why won't they do what i want?!" "amiga is dead!"



Talk about Amiga OS 4 users ruining other OS' threads and people lamenting about it...

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OlafS25 
Re: Software software!!!
Posted on 8-Oct-2014 13:18:32
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@phoenixkonsole

Gutahr is in one point right you should better keep out of Amistore threads. It only makes the impression of a bad looser, make the better offer and persuade by the offering. In a way both sides have commercial interests so show why it is better for developers to offer it on your store than on amigakits store or at least on both.

Moaning about them doing the same does not change anything...

@Gutjahr

you are right

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Xmas87 
Re: Software software!!!
Posted on 8-Oct-2014 13:59:06
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If a developer wants to maximise sales or uptake of their software, they would be wise to use all available channels.
Stocking your products in two stores has got to be better than in just one.

You don't see Heinz ignoring Sainsbury over Tesco.

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itix 
Re: Software software!!!
Posted on 8-Oct-2014 15:39:17
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@OlafS25

Besides, "if it is not released it does not exist". If there is something better it is pointless If you cant have it.

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phoenixkonsole 
Re: Software software!!!
Posted on 8-Oct-2014 17:01:14
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@Olaf
Yeah you are both right. I am just pissed again because of amiga.org not posting my news : )
@ CG
I know you will say that my news are not newsworthy, so keep it for you.
I am not sure but it looks like a Hollywood app as well and btw I opened up the API so someone can do a non-Hollywood client.

: ) I am leaving this thread...

One word about "2 commercial entities" ... I am not eager to rule, i like to invest, so working together may mean paying 2 projects at the same time. 1x app tore 1x a working 3D driver. For example.


...... now i am gone out of this thread.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qXXWHfJha4

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Vistaus 
Re: Software software!!!
Posted on 17-Oct-2014 10:51:33
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Can't wait to get my hands on the new AmiStore :D When will it be out for all users?

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Xmas87 
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Posted on 17-Oct-2014 13:26:30
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@Vistaus

We all want to say Amiwest, but that meeting, whilst being a great Amiga event, historically fails to deliver what is expected...

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phoenixkonsole 
Re: Software software!!!
Posted on 17-Oct-2014 14:45:47
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@Vistaus
By what we have seen so far.... 2 more weeks

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Bugala 
Re: Software software!!!
Posted on 11-Nov-2014 21:28:48
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@cgutjahr

Quote:
Amigakit has many faults, but they get two things right:

2. the don't write their software with Hollywood

Maybe you should try imitating the pros.



Hmm. Username Lazi just pointed out in Hollywood Forums that it reads: "Created with Hollywood by Andreas Falkenhahn" in Amistores binary.


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