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HMK 
Re: Rebol working on OS4 u2?
Posted on 20-Aug-2010 12:26:59
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@cha05e90

Yes, that has been the case in the past. However with REBOL 3, it separates the normally closed OS layer into an open source part, which 4 people are working intensely on right now to get to work on Windows and Linux and when using different compilers/IDEs.

This involves interfacing with the OS and underlying hardware and general access to libraries, like MP3 decoders, OpenGL and whatever you want to do. This used to be Carl's job alone before and unsurprisingly, not much happened.

The only part where Carl needs to be involved is when switching to a new CPU type and provide the proper object files for the compiler, but I'm sure there is a personal interest in AmigaOS.

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Re: Rebol working on OS4 u2?
Posted on 5-Sep-2010 11:08:02
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Carl reports that the core of REBOL 3 now works under AmigaOS4.1. Still need networking and other things to say that the port is complete.

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Re: Rebol working on OS4 u2?
Posted on 5-Sep-2010 13:23:48
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@HMK

This is good news! Hope soon it will be fully supported. More good software for AOS4.

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Mechanic 
Re: Rebol working on OS4 u2?
Posted on 5-Sep-2010 15:14:12
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@HMK

Wow! Super cool.

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ggw 
Re: Rebol working on OS4 u2?
Posted on 6-Sep-2010 3:46:24
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@HMK

I tried Rebol in the remote past.

If it again become viable under OS4, I'll certainly give it a try again.

ggw

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Re: Rebol working on OS4 u2?
Posted on 6-Sep-2010 6:45:03
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@ggw

You should also note, that what you will get is not R2, but next-generation of REBOL, 3.x, which is in works for almost 4 years (so far still in alpha). This new design is much more mature, let me tell you few highlights:

- generally rewritten from scratch, many usefull improvements to language itself
- hybrid open-source. RT keeps just the platform agnostic core interpreter closed - the rest is being open-sourced (80%?)
- module system
- codec system
- Amiga like asynchronous Devices. Rebol is done by Carl Sassenrath, right?
- extensions - not just linking to simple libraries like in R2 - much more mature system, allowing interfacing, callbacks, embedded extensions, delayd extensions, etc.
- View - ditched old kernel, fully replaced by AGG, in some areas the rendering is much faster - View is now as regular extension, it can be eventually replaced
- New GUI
- Unicode support
- tasking (the last "big" component we are waiting for)

More upon the R3 is here - http://www.rebol.com/rebol3/index.html
Current roadmap - http://www.rebol.com/roadmap.html
R3 related projects - http://www.rebol.com/projects.html

best regards,
-pekr-

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croquemitaine 
Re: Rebol working on OS4 u2?
Posted on 6-Sep-2010 17:32:50
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A first "test build" of R3 Core is now running on Amiga OS 4.1!

http://twitter.com/rebol3

But i understood that he port is not the fact of Carl.So who?

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HMK 
Re: Rebol working on OS4 u2?
Posted on 6-Sep-2010 20:20:36
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@croquemitaine

That is the same build as I mentioned.

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ggw 
Re: Rebol working on OS4 u2?
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@-pekr-

Having started as a novice and just devoted approximately 400 hours to Xlib programming I have a program "upgraded" to support Pseudo | True | DirectColor visuals I am in a MUCH better position to appreciate the advancements that you mention.

I look forward to 3+.

ggw

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Re: Rebol working on OS4 u2?
Posted on 16-Sep-2010 7:14:21
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It seems you can follow development in this thread (number of messages growing):

http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rebdev-web.r?msg=7626

AmigaOS4.1 version of REBOL 3 now supports networking.

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HMK 
Re: Rebol working on OS4 u2?
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Looks like while Carl will make it to Amiwest, there will still be a need for someone to do the graphics part for the OS4 version of REBOL 3, otherwise there will only be a console prompt. The source code for the host kit is available on request.

ssolie, are you working on anything?

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Re: Rebol working on OS4 u2?
Posted on 11-Oct-2010 21:41:39
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@HMK
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ssolie, are you working on anything?

Not any more.

You guys have my email address, phone number, etc. so feel free to send any info. along. I'm also in AltMe where Carl and I have chatted before.

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Re: Rebol working on OS4 u2?
Posted on 12-Oct-2010 5:53:18
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It's good to see that Carl is supporting OS4 to the point where he's even going to AmiWest. After his infamous interview I got the impression that he just wasn't that impressed with it.

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Re: Rebol working on OS4 u2?
Posted on 13-Oct-2010 18:08:14
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@CodeSmith
I'd say actions speak louder than words.

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Re: Rebol working on OS4 u2?
Posted on 13-Oct-2010 21:24:24
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@ssolie

It's sort of like Carl watching a child grow up, isn't it? They may not be exactly what you wanted them to be, but you love them nonetheless.

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